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BlueJay  UK 29 Dec 20 11.40am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
If the hospitals are claiming they’re on the cusp then staff should be at the top of the vaccination priority list as a matter of urgency. It should’ve been happening anyway. Most certainly. If they are start coming down with it at the same time, combined with increased hospital numbers we're going to see a lot of otherwise avoidable deaths. They do seem to be botching the vaccine rollout somewhat in terms of their priorities and also IT systems perpetually not being up to the task [Link] Also, if they're going to pause peoples livelihoods again, they may want to consider that it's probably entirely pointless if schools are still open in some capacity.
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 cryrst The garden of England 29 Dec 20 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
If the hospitals are claiming they’re on the cusp then staff should be at the top of the vaccination priority list as a matter of urgency. It should’ve been happening anyway. This vaccine doesnt stop it from being contagious it just protects from getting poorly and under 60s generally dont; Therefore vulnerable amongst the staff yes but as a general rule no. It has to work from the system implemented. That's how you stop hospital admissions and reduce deaths.
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Rudi Hedman  Caterham 29 Dec 20 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
This vaccine doesnt stop it from being contagious it just protects from getting poorly and under 60s generally dont; Therefore vulnerable amongst the staff yes but as a general rule no. It has to work from the system implemented. That's how you stop hospital admissions and reduce deaths. Abig issue at the moment is nhs staff availability, bed availability and capacity. Vaccinating nhs staff solves a lot of numbers quickly and ongoing.
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| The Dolphin 29 Dec 20 5.50pm |
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Positive cases up again but the numbers in intensive care are less than half compared to April.
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| cryrst The garden of England 29 Dec 20 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
Positive cases up again but the numbers in intensive care are less than half compared to April. I think treatments are now known so keeping deaths down. It still doesnt mean we wont see more deaths though due to the amount catching C19.
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| Lombardinho London 29 Dec 20 7.24pm |
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Wakey wakey fellow Palace fans
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| cryrst The garden of England 29 Dec 20 8.00pm |
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I listened to a trust director today who said the reason wards are empty is because staff have been moved to work on covid wards so clearly cannot be on a general ward. A mental health worker also said some of her previously medically trained staff have been requested to work on hospital wards. Another quack said that having so many in ICU for the same condition is scary. Normally he said you may have one car crash, one heart attack, one op etc but all with exactly the same! Before covid there were empty wards but I dont recall any posts asking why the nhs constantly bleats about not enough money.
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| Matov 29 Dec 20 8.33pm |
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"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Dec 20 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
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I think it was a race as to which MP jumped the queue first I expect we will find that Tories have been getting it privately. Sigh our lords and masters.
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| Matov 29 Dec 20 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I think it was a race as to which MP jumped the queue first I expect we will find that Tories have been getting it privately. Sigh our lords and masters.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| cryrst The garden of England 29 Dec 20 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
They will say hes bame so more vulnerable which is actually true. Although there are many more vulnerable bame actually working for the nhs so no defence really.
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| Lombardinho London 29 Dec 20 9.09pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I listened to a trust director today who said the reason wards are empty is because staff have been moved to work on covid wards so clearly cannot be on a general ward. A mental health worker also said some of her previously medically trained staff have been requested to work on hospital wards. Another quack said that having so many in ICU for the same condition is scary. Normally he said you may have one car crash, one heart attack, one op etc but all with exactly the same! Before covid there were empty wards but I dont recall any posts asking why the nhs constantly bleats about not enough money. I appreciate you putting your thoughts down in language that I can understand, cryst.
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