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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 24 9.23am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Opinions are just that, and we can't argue against others' opinions being posted on here, some though treat opinions as fact.

When he simply gets things wrong and misuses language and words that's objective yet he still argues, bonkers and attention seeking.

Roll on the ignore button, I can then read posts I want to without having to see drivel

Or as others might put it:-

“Free speech advocate agitates to be able to live in an echo chamber”.

It seems some don’t so much seek to ignore, because that’s already very easy to accomplish, but want to remove any possibility of seeing things they disagree with.

Feels like cowardice to me.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 05 Aug 24 9.24am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


It would, and I think they have been. That’s from memory. Let’s see what happens if such an event occurs.

Such an event did occur. It was shown on BBC News. The term 'islamic extremists' was not used, although the BBC did show a clip of a police officer urging those islamic extremists to lay their weapons down while promising that none of them were going to be arrested.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Aug 24 9.24am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

One of the biggest problems is a lack of political and media representation for the right.

The other parties are only interested in quelling an uprising. They are well aware of the causes of the unrest, but choose to deny it.
This is happening across Europe, it's not an English or Irish nationalism thing.

People want less immigration. They are afraid for their children and themselves. They see their towns and cities being rapidly altered and had no say in the change. They see their way of life being eroded and their safety threatened.

Suddenly the politicians are worried about the safety of immigrants. Where was their concern for the rest of us? One of their own was killed and they did nothing. Members of our armed forces are under threat at home, they do nothing.

What would have to happen before they acknowledge the problem and do something?

I don't condone indiscriminate violence against people or property, but the unrepresented ordinary people have to make them listen somehow.
Terrorists with causes of all kinds have recognised this for decades.
Do we really have to get to a point where British people employ the tactics of terrorism before they listen?

I weep for this country.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 24 9.40am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Wrong.

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Ok, that’s a dictionary definition of which there are many. Even this one says “especially” regarding the right to vote and the primary examples all concern just that.

This is the news and politics section. We are discussing a news event about political activism and the desire of some to change the political approach of government. We do that via the ballot box. Those that cannot participate in that process are disenfranchised.

So in that context I do not regard it as unreasonable to assume that’s what you meant, and if you didn’t for it to have been made clear.

If you think I should be able to read your mind, fair enough.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 05 Aug 24 9.47am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

I think that there could well be more widespread disturbances next weekend with large numbers of football supporters going here and there.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Aug 24 9.48am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

People on the left claim that complaints about mass immigration should be banned because they are inflammatory and 'extremist'.

Just think about that.

Some are talking about bringing in the Army. Starmer, like some faulty robot, talks about skin colour and 'far right thugs'.
He wants more surveillance and wants to lock people up in over flowing prisons.

This is subjugation.

How much more inflammatory can the government be?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Aug 2024 9.50am)

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 24 9.52am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

One of the biggest problems is a lack of political and media representation for the right.

The other parties are only interested in quelling an uprising. They are well aware of the causes of the unrest, but choose to deny it.
This is happening across Europe, it's not an English or Irish nationalism thing.

People want less immigration. They are afraid for their children and themselves. They see their towns and cities being rapidly altered and had no say in the change. They see their way of life being eroded and their safety threatened.

Suddenly the politicians are worried about the safety of immigrants. Where was their concern for the rest of us? One of their own was killed and they did nothing. Members of our armed forces are under threat at home, they do nothing.

What would have to happen before they acknowledge the problem and do something?

I don't condone indiscriminate violence against people or property, but the unrepresented ordinary people have to make them listen somehow.
Terrorists with causes of all kinds have recognised this for decades.
Do we really have to get to a point where British people employ the tactics of terrorism before they listen?

I weep for this country.

This is a complete distortion and misrepresentation of the situation.

It suggests the “right” speak for everyone, but they don’t. They speak only for themselves and they are a minority.

I have frequently argued that their voice needs to be heard and their ideas defeated by better ones, but that needs to be done via our democratic institutions. Not attempted in the streets. Maybe the big lesson of the last few days is that the need for PR has been made clearer.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 05 Aug 24 10.05am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Starmer, like some faulty robot, talks about skin colour and 'far right thugs'.
He wants more surveillance and wants to lock people up in over flowing prisons.

This is subjugation.

How much more inflammatory can the government be?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Aug 2024 9.50am)

Keir Staliner. Has been in the job just 5 minutes and already half the country hates him. Bullyboy tactics. Plain and simple.
Reminds me of Joe Stalin. When his country was starving of famine, he would nail you for any outcry, protests or voices of dissent.

We have all seen the internet videos of armed gangs of muslims, dressed in black and screaming their battle cry. Starmer tells us to shutup and get back to work.

Young Kids getting stabbed and both the Irish & UK governments condemn the protests - with extreme prejudice. And threaten the protesters.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 24 10.07am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Such an event did occur. It was shown on BBC News. The term 'islamic extremists' was not used, although the BBC did show a clip of a police officer urging those islamic extremists to lay their weapons down while promising that none of them were going to be arrested.

I saw that. The officer was defusing a situation. Would you prefer he inflamed it so a riot ensued and then people would have to be arrested? His job is to keep the peace.

I don’t recall if the term “Islamic extremists” was used but I would not have expected it to have been as there was no evidence they were. They weren’t rioting or using weapons to threaten. The potential for them to do so existed hence the need to defuse. Had they done so such a description would have been accurate, but not before. They could have been arrested and charged with possession of offensive weapons but to try to do so might have produced the very result that wasn’t wanted.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Aug 24 10.08am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Wrong.

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As predicted the know it all narcissist cannot accept being wrong.

It's really gone from sad to pathetic.

Roll on the ignore button


 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I saw that. The officer was defusing a situation. Would you prefer he inflamed it so a riot ensued and then people would have to be arrested? His job is to keep the peace.

I don’t recall if the term “Islamic extremists” was used but I would not have expected it to have been as there was no evidence they were. They weren’t rioting or using weapons to threaten. The potential for them to do so existed hence the need to defuse. Had they done so such a description would have been accurate, but not before. They could have been arrested and charged with possession of offensive weapons but to try to do so might have produced the very result that wasn’t wanted.

The least they could have done is confiscate their woods.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 24 10.19am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Keir Staliner. Has been in the job just 5 minutes and already half the country hates him. Bullyboy tactics. Plain and simple.
Reminds me of Joe Stalin. When his country was starving of famine, he would nail you for any outcry, protests or voices of dissent.

We have all seen the internet videos of armed gangs of muslims, dressed in black and screaming their battle cry. Starmer tells us to shutup and get back to work.

Young Kids getting stabbed and both the Irish & UK governments condemn the protests - with extreme prejudice. And threaten the protesters.

On what basis do you make this claim?

I have seen no survey to discover public opinion but I strongly believe the vast majority of us are in favour of decisive action to contain these riots and punish those involved.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.

Even the right wing press are condemning it:-

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