You're really not as good at wind ups as you think. Spewing out any old toot and expecting everyone to fall for it is junior school stuff.

I think a large problem for the US and by extension the world is that Netanyahu has more power in Washington than Biden. You have this strange reality in the US political bubble of more love and care expressed for Israel than their own nation....money sure does some weird things.

Netanyahu knows he's likely done politically in Israel...not for what he's doing in Gaza...but for how easily Hamas achieved the October 7th attacks. This in itself is quite dangerous because it means he knows this is his opportunity....he has a once in a lifetime chance to ethnically cleanse Gaza and by knocking all those buildings down people have nothing to come back to.

In the past American presidents were able to say 'no' to Israel and be listened to....You will notice that this isn't the case anymore.

But while some might think, great go get those Muslims, there are wider consequences to this. The Islamic countries in the region are far more capable militarily than was the case in the past.

The relatively western facing governments like Egypt, Jordan and the two faced Turkey have been put in an incredibly difficult position. Their populations are highly anti semitic and there are many calling them puppets of the west and Israel and....people should remember that the 'Muslim Brotherhood' ruled in Egypt not so long ago....And Hamas and the 'Muslim Brotherhood' are more than connected.

It wouldn't take much for those countries to flip.....and if that happens escalation leading to WW3 is a real possibility.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2023 10.12am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Imagine someone saying this after 9/11 - just take a deep breath.

Just so I’m clear on things worth getting worked up over: immigration should be hysterically discussed daily with hyperbole about an invasion and men of fighting age.

An actual invasion and mass slaughter of civilians just requires a deep breath.

It's almost like some people can't recognise a bad idea until it actually manifests. At which point it suddenly becomes 'unacceptable' and all the other true but practically pointless words.

There will be attacks that come from all this.....here's a clue, they won't come from native Swedes.

There will be people pointed at and and blamed and it won't be the 'far right'.....but we may ask, who really were to blame.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2023 10.28am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I doubt there is a single person on these boards who doesn’t look on this situation with despair, but this is not our fight.

The West support Israel for obvious reasons. Global politics works with the bigger picture. It cannot afford to indulge in emotional decisions. We have international law in place to protect people as far as it can. Britain stands with its allies when making policy. Even Starmer knows that.

Arab nations won't do it because any regime that accepted resettlement....aside from the economic and housing burders.....knows it would be internally toppled for supporting Israel's actions....which they know means to take that land.

None of them as going to be seen helping Israel solve a problem.

Guess who they are going to ask......To be frank...The Biden administration has enabled Israel to flatten Gaza, give them five billion each year and that's not including the military supply packages.

Let Biden find a way of selling taking the Palestinians to America for his 'greatest ally'.....or should I say pay cheque.

But if any come here I think significant protest will be justified.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2023 12.12pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)