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HKOwen Hong Kong 23 May 21 1.08am
I have certainly disagreed with Mr Stirling on occasions and agreed with him on others. I like having contrary views to mine put on here for discussion and debate. Let's not ever descend into anything like the BBS politics forum where any disagreement with the general tone is personalised in an attempt to bully. In my view If you are centre or to the right of centre you say " I don't agree with you but you are entitled to your opinion " . If you are Left you say " if you disagree with me you are a racist, slave loving, islamaphobic gammon who wants to murder all working class children" or words to that effect. Or to put it another way, non leftie " you're entitled yo your opinion and I respect your right to say it ". Leftie, " you're entitled to my opinion and if you disagree I will have you cancelled " HOL still has all opinions welcome Originally posted by Stirlingsays You could say I agree with a significant downsizing of the BBC certainly. I have stated this previously. However, it isn't 'semantics' to say that I want to abolish the BBC, that is simply your hyperbolic interpretation and not what I've said. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2021 10.09pm) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 23 May 21 1.08am

I have certainly disagreed with Mr Stirling on occasions and agreed with him on others. I like having contrary views to mine put on here for discussion and debate.

Let's not ever descend into anything like the BBS politics forum where any disagreement with the general tone is personalised in an attempt to bully.

In my view

If you are centre or to the right of centre you say " I don't agree with you but you are entitled to your opinion " . If you are Left you say " if you disagree with me you are a racist, slave loving, islamaphobic gammon who wants to murder all working class children" or words to that effect.

Or to put it another way, non leftie " you're entitled yo your opinion and I respect your right to say it ". Leftie, " you're entitled to my opinion and if you disagree I will have you cancelled "

HOL still has all opinions welcome

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You could say I agree with a significant downsizing of the BBC certainly. I have stated this previously. However, it isn't 'semantics' to say that I want to abolish the BBC, that is simply your hyperbolic interpretation and not what I've said.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2021 10.09pm)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Mstrobez 23 May 21 1.28am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What are you on about? It's clear that the BBC pushes an agenda while claiming to be an honest and neutral broadcaster. That has to stop. The fact that we are bound to pay for it by law is also completely out of touch with the 21st century. Certainly the BBC has elements that are outstanding, but they could run a commercial channel for news and fiction and an optional licence fee channel which shows only documentaries and other non political, non fiction programmes. That latter is what the BBC does best. If you can’t understand the post I’m not sure I can help you but I wasn’t addressing you. You’re quite rude. I’ve addressed all the points you’ve just raised in an earlier post so instead of rushing to defend your pal perhaps go back in the thread and respond to that. Edited by Mstrobez (23 May 2021 1.37am) We're the Arthur over ere!
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23 May 21 1.28am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What are you on about?

It's clear that the BBC pushes an agenda while claiming to be an honest and neutral broadcaster. That has to stop. The fact that we are bound to pay for it by law is also completely out of touch with the 21st century. Certainly the BBC has elements that are outstanding, but they could run a commercial channel for news and fiction and an optional licence fee channel which shows only documentaries and other non political, non fiction programmes. That latter is what the BBC does best.

If you can’t understand the post I’m not sure I can help you but I wasn’t addressing you. You’re quite rude.

I’ve addressed all the points you’ve just raised in an earlier post so instead of rushing to defend your pal perhaps go back in the thread and respond to that.

Edited by Mstrobez (23 May 2021 1.37am)

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Mstrobez 23 May 21 1.34am
Originally posted by HKOwen I have certainly disagreed with Mr Stirling on occasions and agreed with him on others. I like having contrary views to mine put on here for discussion and debate. Let's not ever descend into anything like the BBS politics forum where any disagreement with the general tone is personalised in an attempt to bully. In my view If you are centre or to the right of centre you say " I don't agree with you but you are entitled to your opinion " . If you are Left you say " if you disagree with me you are a racist, slave loving, islamaphobic gammon who wants to murder all working class children" or words to that effect. Or to put it another way, non leftie " you're entitled yo your opinion and I respect your right to say it ". Leftie, " you're entitled to my opinion and if you disagree I will have you cancelled " HOL still has all opinions welcome That’s exactly how the modern left behave, yes. But it absolutely is not exclusive to the left. The populist right that Sterling occupies operates in almost exactly the same way, that’s the irony of it all. They virtue signal, they play identity politics & they smear everyone they disagree with in the same manner as the wokies, trust me. I don’t really know Stirling but assumed he was just a guy who like you say, I agree with on occasion and disagree with on others. Yet the minute I questioned him on something he resorted to calling me "woke". The right virtue signal about "LAW AND ORDER" and how patriotic they are and play the exact same identity politics. They’re 2 cheeks on the same arse. We're the Arthur over ere!
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23 May 21 1.34am

Originally posted by HKOwen

I have certainly disagreed with Mr Stirling on occasions and agreed with him on others. I like having contrary views to mine put on here for discussion and debate.

Let's not ever descend into anything like the BBS politics forum where any disagreement with the general tone is personalised in an attempt to bully.

In my view

Or to put it another way, non leftie " you're entitled yo your opinion and I respect your right to say it ". Leftie, " you're entitled to my opinion and if you disagree I will have you cancelled "

HOL still has all opinions welcome

That’s exactly how the modern left behave, yes. But it absolutely is not exclusive to the left. The populist right that Sterling occupies operates in almost exactly the same way, that’s the irony of it all.

They virtue signal, they play identity politics & they smear everyone they disagree with in the same manner as the wokies, trust me. I don’t really know Stirling but assumed he was just a guy who like you say, I agree with on occasion and disagree with on others. Yet the minute I questioned him on something he resorted to calling me "woke".

The right virtue signal about "LAW AND ORDER" and how patriotic they are and play the exact same identity politics. They’re 2 cheeks on the same arse.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Matov 23 May 21 7.39am
Originally posted by DanH Keep it down, lads. Eurovision is on BBC1. Sat down at watched that last night, for the first time EVER. Met up with some European friends who we have not seen in nearly a year so it was an event in itself but traditionally they always throw a party for it, which my wife attends but I always bail out. And next year, I revert to type. f* me, what a load of utter stinking s*e. They told me that apparently, the UK, along with German, Spain, France and Italy, pay a shed load of money so that it can go ahead and thus don't have to 'qualify for the final? Which offends me on multiple of levels. How can it be a 'competition if you can buy your way into the finals? And if the BBC are coughing up X amount of money for it then surely you want to make more of an effort in the song you put up? The UK entry was, at best, a good Karaoke singer. See him down the Red Lion, pissed up and belting out a few tunes, and he might win the £25 Aldi's voucher on offer for the least offensive one up on stage that night. But in an international competition? If he was the best we had to offer then I hate to think how rubbish the act that came second was in (what I assume?) the UK heats to choose our entry. As for the rest, then I shudder. For that reason alone, I would abolish the BBC tomorrow. Leave means Leave. And that includes Eurovision. Edited by Matov (23 May 2021 7.44am) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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23 May 21 7.39am

Originally posted by DanH

Keep it down, lads. Eurovision is on BBC1.

Sat down at watched that last night, for the first time EVER. Met up with some European friends who we have not seen in nearly a year so it was an event in itself but traditionally they always throw a party for it, which my wife attends but I always bail out.

And next year, I revert to type.

f*** me, what a load of utter stinking s***e. They told me that apparently, the UK, along with German, Spain, France and Italy, pay a shed load of money so that it can go ahead and thus don't have to 'qualify for the final?

Which offends me on multiple of levels. How can it be a 'competition if you can buy your way into the finals? And if the BBC are coughing up X amount of money for it then surely you want to make more of an effort in the song you put up?

The UK entry was, at best, a good Karaoke singer. See him down the Red Lion, pissed up and belting out a few tunes, and he might win the £25 Aldi's voucher on offer for the least offensive one up on stage that night. But in an international competition?

If he was the best we had to offer then I hate to think how rubbish the act that came second was in (what I assume?) the UK heats to choose our entry.

As for the rest, then I shudder. For that reason alone, I would abolish the BBC tomorrow.

Leave means Leave. And that includes Eurovision.

Edited by Matov (23 May 2021 7.44am)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 23 May 21 9.50am
Your tax money at work ! Originally posted by Matov Sat down at watched that last night, for the first time EVER. Met up with some European friends who we have not seen in nearly a year so it was an event in itself but traditionally they always throw a party for it, which my wife attends but I always bail out. And next year, I revert to type. f* me, what a load of utter stinking s*e. They told me that apparently, the UK, along with German, Spain, France and Italy, pay a shed load of money so that it can go ahead and thus don't have to 'qualify for the final? Which offends me on multiple of levels. How can it be a 'competition if you can buy your way into the finals? And if the BBC are coughing up X amount of money for it then surely you want to make more of an effort in the song you put up? The UK entry was, at best, a good Karaoke singer. See him down the Red Lion, pissed up and belting out a few tunes, and he might win the £25 Aldi's voucher on offer for the least offensive one up on stage that night. But in an international competition? If he was the best we had to offer then I hate to think how rubbish the act that came second was in (what I assume?) the UK heats to choose our entry. As for the rest, then I shudder. For that reason alone, I would abolish the BBC tomorrow. Leave means Leave. And that includes Eurovision. Edited by Matov (23 May 2021 7.44am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 23 May 21 9.50am

Your tax money at work !

Originally posted by Matov

And next year, I revert to type.

If he was the best we had to offer then I hate to think how rubbish the act that came second was in (what I assume?) the UK heats to choose our entry.

As for the rest, then I shudder. For that reason alone, I would abolish the BBC tomorrow.

Leave means Leave. And that includes Eurovision.

Edited by Matov (23 May 2021 7.44am)

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Stirlingsays 23 May 21 10.04am
Originally posted by Mstrobez That’s exactly how the modern left behave, yes. But it absolutely is not exclusive to the left. The populist right that Sterling occupies operates in almost exactly the same way, that’s the irony of it all. They virtue signal, they play identity politics & they smear everyone they disagree with in the same manner as the wokies, trust me. I don’t really know Stirling but assumed he was just a guy who like you say, I agree with on occasion and disagree with on others. Yet the minute I questioned him on something he resorted to calling me "woke". The right virtue signal about "LAW AND ORDER" and how patriotic they are and play the exact same identity politics. They’re 2 cheeks on the same arse. Don't fool yourself, all politics operates on identities. I simply changed with the times while you're still holding onto a past that doesn't exist anymore and complaining about it. There are definitely arguments against identity politics and I use to argue against it myself....but I'm afraid they lost the discussion some time ago....as the law attests to. As for smearing, you haven't stopped on this thread. Yes, I called you woke and when you complained I apologised....but you haven't stopped whining about it since have you. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2021 10.52am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

23 May 21 10.04am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

The right virtue signal about "LAW AND ORDER" and how patriotic they are and play the exact same identity politics. They’re 2 cheeks on the same arse.

Don't fool yourself, all politics operates on identities. I simply changed with the times while you're still holding onto a past that doesn't exist anymore and complaining about it.

There are definitely arguments against identity politics and I use to argue against it myself....but I'm afraid they lost the discussion some time ago....as the law attests to.

As for smearing, you haven't stopped on this thread. Yes, I called you woke and when you complained I apologised....but you haven't stopped whining about it since have you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2021 10.52am)

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 May 21 10.11am
Originally posted by Mstrobez If you can’t understand the post I’m not sure I can help you but I wasn’t addressing you. You’re quite rude. I’ve addressed all the points you’ve just raised in an earlier post so instead of rushing to defend your pal perhaps go back in the thread and respond to that. Edited by Mstrobez (23 May 2021 1.37am) What I understand is that you have just started posting on the politics thread, and you need to wind it in a bit. Believe me, I can be plenty rude, but I will give you the same level of respect that you give others. Meanwhile, the BBC needs reining in. That is clear. They appear to have a similar attitude to the one you have shown so far on this thread. A sneering holier than thou attitude with delusions of intellectual superiority. There has to be a recognition that the British public no longer trust or believe in the BBC mentality. They do not fairly represent the average person. For a start, They need to take their woke, anti White prejudice and shove it up their virtue signalling arses. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 May 2021 10.14am)
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23 May 21 10.11am

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Originally posted by Mstrobez

If you can’t understand the post I’m not sure I can help you but I wasn’t addressing you. You’re quite rude.

I’ve addressed all the points you’ve just raised in an earlier post so instead of rushing to defend your pal perhaps go back in the thread and respond to that.

Edited by Mstrobez (23 May 2021 1.37am)

What I understand is that you have just started posting on the politics thread, and you need to wind it in a bit.
Believe me, I can be plenty rude, but I will give you the same level of respect that you give others.

Meanwhile, the BBC needs reining in. That is clear. They appear to have a similar attitude to the one you have shown so far on this thread. A sneering holier than thou attitude with delusions of intellectual superiority.

There has to be a recognition that the British public no longer trust or believe in the BBC mentality. They do not fairly represent the average person.
For a start, They need to take their woke, anti White prejudice and shove it up their virtue signalling arses.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 May 2021 10.14am)

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DanH SW2 23 May 21 10.28am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What I understand is that you have just started posting on the politics thread, and you need to wind it in a bit. Believe me, I can be plenty rude, but I will give you the same level of respect that you give others. Meanwhile, the BBC needs reining in. That is clear. They appear to have a similar attitude to the one you have shown so far on this thread. A sneering holier than thou attitude with delusions of intellectual superiority. There has to be a recognition that the British public no longer trust or believe in the BBC mentality. They do not fairly represent the average person. For a start, They need to take their woke, anti White prejudice and shove it up their virtue signalling arses. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 May 2021 10.14am) Delusion on your part that you think your views represent the British public. The anti-BBC feeling on here (along with pretty much every pretty political position) is not reflective of the country as a whole.
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SW2 23 May 21 10.28am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 May 2021 10.14am)

Delusion on your part that you think your views represent the British public. The anti-BBC feeling on here (along with pretty much every pretty political position) is not reflective of the country as a whole.

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Stirlingsays 23 May 21 10.54am
Originally posted by DanH Delusion on your part that you think your views represent the British public. The anti-BBC feeling on here (along with pretty much every pretty political position) is not reflective of the country as a whole. Wow....how delusionary is it for the Corbyn supporter to talk about someone else being out of touch with public opinion. After the election you were literally on here asking people why Labour lost. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2021 10.59am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 May 21 10.54am

Originally posted by DanH

Wow....how delusionary is it for the Corbyn supporter to talk about someone else being out of touch with public opinion.

After the election you were literally on here asking people why Labour lost.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2021 10.59am)

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Spiderman Horsham 23 May 21 11.11am
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham A bit harsh on Diana because she was very young and naive when she was singled out for breeding. Her family clearly wanted the fame and fortune and made out of it. However, "Migraine Markle" is a mature opportunist who wasn't up to the job she married into and used every opportunity to excuse her shortcomings. As a B category soap actress I wonder how she became so well connected to former US presidents and mega media owner/ stars but I still don't know how our 'establishment' didn't see her coming? Edited by Henry of Peckham (22 May 2021 8.44pm) I think they did she her coming and tried to warn Harry. Unfortunately Harry seemed to listen to “Willie” and I don’t mean his brother
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Horsham 23 May 21 11.11am

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

A bit harsh on Diana because she was very young and naive when she was singled out for breeding. Her family clearly wanted the fame and fortune and made out of it.

However, "Migraine Markle" is a mature opportunist who wasn't up to the job she married into and used every opportunity to excuse her shortcomings.

As a B category soap actress I wonder how she became so well connected to former US presidents and mega media owner/ stars but I still don't know how our 'establishment' didn't see her coming?

Edited by Henry of Peckham (22 May 2021 8.44pm)

I think they did she her coming and tried to warn Harry. Unfortunately Harry seemed to listen to “Willie” and I don’t mean his brother

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Teddy Eagle 23 May 21 11.14am
Originally posted by Spiderman I think they did she her coming and tried to warn Harry. Unfortunately Harry seemed to listen to “Willie” and I don’t mean his brother A different crowned head.
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23 May 21 11.14am

Originally posted by Spiderman

I think they did she her coming and tried to warn Harry. Unfortunately Harry seemed to listen to “Willie” and I don’t mean his brother

A different crowned head.

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Stirlingsays 23 May 21 11.40am
Originally posted by Spiderman I think they did she her coming and tried to warn Harry. Unfortunately Harry seemed to listen to “Willie” and I don’t mean his brother 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 May 21 11.40am

Originally posted by Spiderman

I think they did she her coming and tried to warn Harry. Unfortunately Harry seemed to listen to “Willie” and I don’t mean his brother

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