From what I've heard even if you are vaccinated you can still infect so I'm not seeing how this helps those with very weak immune systems.

If they were serious in protecting that group then we should have been having flu vaccines for the entire population from the year dot....and vaccinating people all the time against multiple ailments.

Yet that was never done because of the recognition that few among the young die of the flu....and other treatments were only ever offered if it was thought they were relevant to that individual.

We live in a reality where airplanes could have had safety features to save passengers but they have never been implemented because of cost and low risk....for example the technology for modular planes that could detach the whole passenger section with parachutes could have been done many decades ago.

That's what seems to have gone out the window....the recognition that life involves risk and the choice to take them or not.

Today's generation are treated like infants....by control freaks offering certainty...possibly sometimes down to their own egos and god complexes.

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It was announced yesterday that the new strain is "Out of control".

I foresee yet another National Lockdown in the new year for a few months and countries not allowing us to visit them.
The outlook is exceedingly bleak.

Yeh, silly snowflakes choosing to get ill or die. Wouldn't have happened in my day.

You actually believe it is reasonable to compare 257 deaths in plane crashes to 1.7m deaths from COVID.

We definitely live in parallel universes.

Nobody knows if you will still pass the vaccine at all after vaccination. It is well established you will not be as prone to transmitting it as before you had the vaccine.

“There is a theoretical risk that you could pass the virus on to others despite being vaccinated,” says Kirsten Hokeness, Ph.D., director of Bryant University’s new Center for Health and Behavioral Sciences. And we definitely need more answers before people stop wearing masks.

But virus transmission by vaccinated people hopefully won’t be the case. “The goal of the vaccine is to create immunological memory in the body so that when you encounter the virus in the future, your immune system rapidly ramps up and attacks the virus very quickly before you get sick. Therefore, as long as the vaccine boasts a strong immunological response, it is likely that the virus will be stopped from replicating in your system pretty quickly,” Dr. Hokeness says. That would limit your ability to spread it to others. “It can happen, but the risks would be far less than if you were not vaccinated,” she says, adding that “since the vaccine requires a booster it may be that your ability to spread the virus would be greater if you only got one dose, but there is not data available yet that would suggest that that is the case.

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