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 Eaglecoops  CR3 20 Dec 20 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I think vaccinating everyone over 70 who wants the vaccine will be done in a few months time max. Needs must. From what I've been told the over 75s are likely to get vaccinated at the start of Feb, but time will tell. By March several million should've been vaccinated and these will all be the most vulnerable in society. Logically cases will still be high, but my hope is that hospitalisations and deaths are low, in which case it should be the key to just carrying on as normal. I've given up trying to second guess the governments approach though at any point in time so who knows! Not sure how that’s going to happen though. At the moment only one vaccine has been approved here and that has caused some nasty side effects although I grant in small numbers. We only ordered a small amount of this vaccine as all the govmt and their mates are heavily invested in the Oxford vaccine. For some reason it appears to have gone a bit quiet on this. All this means is that the country is very likely to stay in this lock downed state for many months to come which is impossible to sustain economically and will probably be rebelled against at some point as the handling of the whole matter has been appalling and people have had enough. Edited by Eaglecoops (20 Dec 2020 1.33pm)
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| Eaglecoops CR3 20 Dec 20 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Who isn't vulnerable? All of those who have had it without the slightest of illness, which is the vast majority.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 20 Dec 20 1.37pm |
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The current vaccine requires special handling and any GP surgery has to use it in 900 doses in 3 days so only the bigger surgeries are really interested. The Astra Zeneca one is a lot easier to manage so will allow more surgeries to take it up. As the weather improves the government could organise mass outdoor sessions. With all that said they will do well to offer everyone a vaccination by this time next year.
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BlueJay  UK 20 Dec 20 1.43pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Not sure how that’s going to happen though. At the moment only one vaccine has been approved here and that has caused some nasty side effects although I grant in small numbers. We only ordered a small amount of this vaccine as all the govmt and their mates are heavily invested in the Oxford vaccine. For some reason it appears to have gone a bit quiet on this. All this means is that the country is very likely to stay in this lock downed state for many months to come which is impossible to sustain economically and will probably be rebelled against at some point as the handling of the whole matter has been appalling and people have had enough. Edited by Eaglecoops (20 Dec 2020 1.33pm) Further vaccines should be approved imminently - the Oxford vaccine is likely to be approved before the end of the year. I appreciate that it's a bit of a 'riding by the seat of our pants' situation. My thought is that if we on one hand undermine or are suspicious of the vaccine, but on the other bemoan not getting back to normal, we should probably re-evaluate our thoughts on the former. It makes sense for at least the over 70s to receive this vaccine all things considered. Once that has happened I can't see how our lockdown loving government could keep pushing the economy further over the cliff if there much less consequence to covid-19 infection in unvaccinated groups.
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| chris123 hove actually 20 Dec 20 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
All of those who have had it without the slightest of illness, which is the vast majority. And who can still be contagious.
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| BlueJay UK 20 Dec 20 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The current vaccine requires special handling and any GP surgery has to use it in 900 doses in 3 days so only the bigger surgeries are really interested. The Astra Zeneca one is a lot easier to manage so will allow more surgeries to take it up. As the weather improves the government could organise mass outdoor sessions. With all that said they will do well to offer everyone a vaccination by this time next year. Yes I hear that there are loose plans to use football stadiums and race tracks. Will have to see how things go I guess. So many things have been botched so far, that it'd be nice for something to eventually go to plan.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Dec 20 1.46pm |
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Dec 20 1.47pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Who isn't vulnerable? This was the issue with people against protecting the vulnerable trying to include anybody they possibly could into vulnerable categories. Have a cut off at a mortality rate or a percentage of the population as well. I’ve spoken to a couple of people claiming they’re vulnerable and in fact they aren’t. If you didn’t receive a shielding letter from the doctor or over whichever age they select then you shouldn’t be in any vulnerable list if that’s what it had to come down to.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Dec 20 1.51pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I think vaccinating everyone over 70 who wants the vaccine will be done in a few months time max. Needs must. From what I've been told the over 75s are likely to get vaccinated at the start of Feb, but time will tell. By March several million should've been vaccinated and these will all be the most vulnerable in society. Logically cases will still be high, but my hope is that hospitalisations and deaths are low, in which case it should be the key to just carrying on as normal. I've given up trying to second guess the governments approach though at any point in time so who knows! A caterham 82 year old I know had first vaccination yesterday and the 2nd is on 9th January. I’m not as confident as you on the government. The summer furlough and hospitals effectively closed all summer was ridiculous.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 20 Dec 20 1.52pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
And who can still be contagious. A vaccine doesn’t stop you passing it on, only assist in preventing symptoms. So are we to stay in lockdown for another year? Do you think the people will accept that and the government afford it?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Dec 20 1.56pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Yes I hear that there are loose plans to use football stadiums and race tracks. Will have to see how things go I guess. So many things have been botched so far, that it'd be nice for something to eventually go to plan. Maybe we could take the vaccine in the pit Lane at Brands Hatch and do a lap before exiting. Or juggle the ball half the length of the pitch before smashing the ball in the goal.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Dec 20 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
A vaccine doesn’t stop you passing it on, only assist in preventing symptoms. So are we to stay in lockdown for another year? Do you think the people will accept that and the government afford it? Dan thought this concern was stupid. Turns out it can be the case.
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