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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Mar 22 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by W12
The only civilians I've seen hurt were at the hands of Ukranians. Oh and shove your f***ing s***ty feminised attitude up your ass. Hahaha. You seem a bit too emotionally involved there. Time of the month?
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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Mar 22 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by W12
All I'm seeing is the usual hysterical fear p***. virtue signalling and disgusting war rhetoric from both blue checkmarks and friends and family who know nothing about geopolitics in the region and why we are in this position. f*** their little Ukraine flags and I'm almost at the stage where I want to put a Russian flag outside just to piss them off. Putin has every right to be in Ukraine protecting ethnic Russians and pushing back against NATO/EU globalist expansionism. The alphabet agencies have been all over Ukraine for decades and it's basically a puppet state / criminal enterprise / money laundering operation. All the while western nations including UK, US, Canada, Australia crack down hard with state sponsored violence on any descent for their freedoms being removed by law and existing constitutions/laws ignored. Like a good magician, they have you all watching the wrong hand. You would have a point if the invasion had stopped where it was a few days ago, but its absurd to pretend that a de-nazification or de=militarisation is required of ordinary Ukrainians going about their business. An excuse, a cover up, to invade and occupy an independent sovereign nation. In just a day Putin turned Russia into a pariah, an embarrassment An ex-parrot.
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BlueJay UK 02 Mar 22 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by W12
All I'm seeing is the usual hysterical fear p***. virtue signalling and disgusting war rhetoric from both blue checkmarks and friends and family who know nothing about geopolitics in the region and why we are in this position. f*** their little Ukraine flags and I'm almost at the stage where I want to put a Russian flag outside just to piss them off. Putin has every right to be in Ukraine protecting ethnic Russians and pushing back against NATO/EU globalist expansionism. The alphabet agencies have been all over Ukraine for decades and it's basically a puppet state / criminal enterprise / money laundering operation. All the while western nations including UK, US, Canada, Australia crack down hard with state sponsored violence on any descent for their freedoms being removed by law and existing constitutions/laws ignored. Like a good magician, they have you all watching the wrong hand. Another who can't help but, unforced, bring up his family and friends in a denigrating fashion. Weird. While I entirely agree in this case about the pointless virtue signalling of wearing Ukranian flags but doing nothing to help the situation, essentially giving the green light and approving of what is currently happening is abhorrent. For all of the rights or wrongs of policy, clearly invading Ukraine and the killing countless innocents should be condemned. It is ordinary people paying the price for this.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Mar 22 11.43am | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Another who can't help but, unforced, bring up his family and friends in a denigrating fashion. Weird. While I entirely agree in this case about the pointless virtue signalling of wearing Ukranian flags but doing nothing to help the situation, essentially giving the green light and approving of what is currently happening is abhorrent. For all of the rights or wrongs of policy, clearly invading Ukraine and the killing countless innocents should be condemned. It is ordinary people paying the price for this. In my inevitable very ill-articulated way, was my original point. I think the 'ordinary people paying the price for this' is another very good point. Many Russians caught up in this unwillingly and unawares as to why - apparently.
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W12 02 Mar 22 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
You would have a point if the invasion had stopped where it was a few days ago, but its absurd to pretend that a de-nazification or de=militarisation is required of ordinary Ukrainians going about their business. An excuse, a cover up, to invade and occupy an independent sovereign nation. In just a day Putin turned Russia into a pariah, an embarrassment An ex-parrot. Nobody should listen to a politician, watch what they do rather than listen to what they say. I suspect Putin wants the following: 1. To protect ethnic Russians in the east/Donbas who have been targeted by Ukraine factions since 2014 To that aim I expect he will either annex eastern Ukraine or declare a separate republic and install a puppet government into the rest of Ukraine as the US did in 2014. If he achieves this he will have played a blinder.
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W12 02 Mar 22 11.49am | |
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But where?
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W12 02 Mar 22 11.56am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
numerous media reports and images of civilian casualties I feel quite the fool now! Highlighted your problem in bold Edited by W12 (02 Mar 2022 11.57am)
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BlueJay UK 02 Mar 22 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by W12
The only civilians I've seen hurt were at the hands of Ukranians. Oh and shove your f***ing s***ty feminised attitude up your ass. You're talking to someone who has been perfectly civil and has simply taken issue with your bad attitude and swearing. Your first statement here is clearly incorrect. There's plenty of footage of Russian soliders crimes here, as I'm sure there are in all wars. An elderly couple being shot to ribbons, a man, his son and their dog being mercilessly picked off from afar. Were these all acts of 'denazification' to you? You no doubt see them all as being 'fake news' on account that your posts are littered with enough buzzwords to indicate a type, rather than an a capacity to reason. The same thought(less) processes and blinkers as the other political extremes. You could always go to Ukraine and take them on, if you're so angry about them bravely defending their country against the odds. It's a bit more 'alpha' than slagging off family and friends online who refuse to go with your one dimensional rage takes, and threatening to put a Russian flag up.
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W12 02 Mar 22 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
You're talking to someone who has been perfectly civil and has simply taken issue with your bad attitude and swearing. Your first statement here is clearly incorrect. There's plenty of footage of Russian soliders crimes here, as I'm sure there are in all wars. An elderly couple being shot to ribbons, a man, his son and their dog being mercilessly picked off from afar. Were these all acts of 'denazification' to you? You no doubt see them all as being 'fake news' on account that your posts are littered with enough buzzwords to indicate a type, rather than an a capacity to reason. The same thought(less) processes and blinkers as the other political extremes. You could always go to Ukraine and take them on, if you're so angry about them bravely defending their country against the odds. It's a bit more 'alpha' than slagging off family and friends online who refuse to go with your one dimensional rage takes, and threatening to put a Russian flag up.
Footage? Where is this footage?
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Mar 22 12.07pm | |
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I think you've highlighted your own.
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georgenorman 02 Mar 22 12.08pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
All I'm seeing is the usual hysterical fear p***. virtue signalling and disgusting war rhetoric from both blue checkmarks and friends and family who know nothing about geopolitics in the region and why we are in this position. f*** their little Ukraine flags and I'm almost at the stage where I want to put a Russian flag outside just to piss them off. Putin has every right to be in Ukraine protecting ethnic Russians and pushing back against NATO/EU globalist expansionism. The alphabet agencies have been all over Ukraine for decades and it's basically a puppet state / criminal enterprise / money laundering operation. All the while western nations including UK, US, Canada, Australia crack down hard with state sponsored violence on any descent for their freedoms being removed by law and existing constitutions/laws ignored. Like a good magician, they have you all watching the wrong hand. Wow, and I thought Steeleye was nuts - you take it to a whole new level.
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BlueJay UK 02 Mar 22 12.17pm | |
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If you're so fragile that you refuse to believe that realities of war are also occurring in this conflict, just because it goes against what you'd prefer to believe and have been told by your bubble buddies, then that's your problem no-one elses. The footage is deeply upsetting and inhumane so I'm not going to post it here for you to search for an 'angle' on. It's far from difficult to find. The irony of thinking that everyone else is brainwashed and you have some kind of unique clarify of view, while you no doubt lap up basement sweller contributions and buzz words that even most teenagers have left behind. Getting high fived in an encrypted chat by a bunch of fellow inadequates doesn't make you an 'alpha'. I suspect that's the level you're at, but who knows. Maybe I've got you all wrong. It's possible to look at issues in a reasoned light. Sure policy going back years may not have helped this situation, it's perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that, but also to see Putin's massive failings too, in his treatment and view of his neighbours. What is happening to innocents in Ukraine is abhorrent, your denial of that is irrelevant.. and those defending their country are brave as the odds are stacked firmly against them. And people like Alexei Navalny who still speak out, despite massive personal cost. I'll make you a little 'I'm an alpha' badge though if that makes you happy. You can point to it when you're dressing down your family and friends, since you appear to have convinced yourself that they too haven't got a clue and that you're all knowing...
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