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Spiderman Horsham 14 Jan 23 8.26am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Elizabeth I, aka Glenda Jackson, was an equal opportunity employer in that you all had an equal opportunity of getting scurvy and left to die after fighting for her. As a reward she would make sure you didn't get paid either, she wouldn't even pay the minimum dying wage there wouldn't be much point in a living one.
White privilege eh! What a thing
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Mapletree Croydon 14 Jan 23 9.06am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Were Roger and John black. Edmund Drake was also a vicar for a number of years. Well done, you finally found Google It’s a shame you then immediately made a snide racist comment.
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georgenorman 14 Jan 23 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well done, you finally found Google It’s a shame you then immediately made a snide racist comment. How is that a racist comment?
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Mapletree Croydon 14 Jan 23 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Iceni Rebellion (Failure confirmed Roman rule in Britain) To name just a few, all defeats not airbrushed because of the significant consequences. If it happen last week the English Armada would be newsworthy when you are looking at 3000 years of English history it's not. What does that have to do with airbrushing a significant part of the Armada story. This was where the British people died, not in battle.
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Mapletree Croydon 14 Jan 23 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
How is that a racist comment? You get more ridiculous each post. Edmund was a robber. He was not, as far as I know, a slaver. Drake helped his cousin Hawkins to set up the British slave trade. He then helped another relative, Lovell, to steal slaves from the Portuguese. Perhaps he learned how to rob from his father as well as Lovell.
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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jan 23 11.49am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
What does that have to do with airbrushing a significant part of the Armada story. This was where the British people died, not in battle. ?? I was responding to the point that we airbrush our failures by showing we don't. All of the above were English failures still taught in school because the consequences were significant. The defeat of the English armada was not historically signifiant. If you were doing a degree in Elizabethan history then yes I would include it but if you are teaching kids general English history I don't think it is sufficient important when there is so much else to cover.
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georgenorman 14 Jan 23 12.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You get more ridiculous each post. Edmund was a robber. He was not, as far as I know, a slaver. Drake helped his cousin Hawkins to set up the British slave trade. He then helped another relative, Lovell, to steal slaves from the Portuguese. Perhaps he learned how to rob from his father as well as Lovell. How was my post racist?
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jan 23 1.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Five minutes? British anti slavery became big news in the 17th century. I guess history just isn’t your thing. Are you on drugs? You seem to be incapable of understanding. Your loopy recent obsession with slavery is really odd. I bet pretty much everybody has ancestors who were slaves at one time or another. So what? Let's put it in perspective. Only 10% of the world population is White. White people have only existed for a fraction of human evolution. The country you have spent your life in is predominantly White and has been almost entirely White for all but the last 70 years. White people of various nationalities have enslaved all types of others. Skin colour has nothing to do with that. It was, and still is, about opportunity and personal gain. Exploitation of others is a constant in human history in one form or another, and is not confined to any race. There is something fundamentally wrong with the constant guilt bating and delusions of White privilege coming from the usual suspects. For argument’s sake, if White privilege is a fact, how did it come into being? In that sense, we earned our 'privilege'. It is typical of White Leftist to claim victimhood, as it is for members of some other 'races' who spend their time whining about their lot rater than trying to better themselves. Bleating about 'privilege' and wallowing in self pity about increasingly distant historical events and figures will achieve precisely nothing in the way of self improvement. What is most nauseating is when White Leftist types claim to be 'Woke' and spend far too much of their time worrying about the plight of the 90% of the World population who aren't White. Can you not see how bonkers that is in the bigger picture?
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Teddy Eagle 14 Jan 23 1.47pm | |
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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jan 23 1.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
One of the richest organisations in the country, they can go whistle for a donation from me. If they want to spend their ill gotten gains this way I personally don't care although I guess if you are a member of the COE you may have have a view.
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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jan 23 2.18pm | |
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I think its fair to say that brexit is modelled on the English Armada. And the air-brushing operation is in full swing politicians can not let the dreaded B word pass their lips, just like Suez. Like Philip of Spain, the EU has resumed control in Europe support for mounting anything so foolish as leaving the EU has disappeared, having seen the disorganisation and chaos of the British brexit fleet.
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georgenorman 14 Jan 23 2.45pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I think its fair to say that brexit is modelled on the English Armada. And the air-brushing operation is in full swing politicians can not let the dreaded B word pass their lips, just like Suez. Like Philip of Spain, the EU has resumed control in Europe support for mounting anything so foolish as leaving the EU has disappeared, having seen the disorganisation and chaos of the British brexit fleet. You and Brexit is like a Japanese soldier in the jungle still fighting World War II years after it is over.
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