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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 12 May 16 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

You have surpassed yourself here Cucking!

Will you commence the reclamation of Empire by leading a one person re-invasion of Mesopotamia (Iraq) to reactivate the mandate,start a new opium War in China to get back the "treaty port" of Shanghai ,or perhaps hide in a container of tea headed for Boston to sort those damn uppity Yankees out?

All of that, to say nothing of putting those f*cking Boers firmly back in their place.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 12 May 16 1.40pm

Originally posted by Stuk

And why has this been moved to football talk?

There was no 'bender talk' so Football talk seemed appropriate.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 12 May 16 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

There was no 'bender talk' so Football talk seemed appropriate.

Really? I was under the impression there was a moderator forum

 


Optimistic as ever

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JohnyBoy Flag 12 May 16 5.11pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

In 40 years I will be but a faded memory to my nephews and nieces who will still be benefiting from my estate hopefully.

I am fast approaching 62 and have Parkinson's and Diabetes.

I doubt that I'll get to see Corbyn's nose rubbed in it, in 2020.

I'm hoping that I'll have seen Palace win the FA Cup though!

Take care Johnny.

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Oh sorry to hear that Hoof, but you can go on for ages with Parkinsons -great drugs available now..you are right though, a Palace win in the fa cup would cure all kinds of ailments. Never something i expected to see in my lifetime.........
....you will be remembered fondly i assure you especially by those lucky nieces and nephews, i expect they have 'told' you they are voting out.....'yeah right!!!'

 

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Hoof Hearted 12 May 16 5.41pm

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Oh sorry to hear that Hoof, but you can go on for ages with Parkinsons -great drugs available now..you are right though, a Palace win in the fa cup would cure all kinds of ailments. Never something i expected to see in my lifetime.........
....you will be remembered fondly i assure you especially by those lucky nieces and nephews, i expect they have 'told' you they are voting out.....'yeah right!!!'

Thanks for your kind words mate.

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davenotamonkey Flag 12 May 16 8.38pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Ah it was such a splendid sunday afternoon enjoying the sunshine with Hoof. We know we are just footsoldiers for our respective causes so things could remain cordial for one day only. I explained to him that doing an economics degree wasnt entirely useless and indeed i learned some valuable life skills, like pool sharking, lighting farts and being able to drink a pint of bitter in 2.5 seconds. Hoof nodded in approval. I also commented that i didnt receive one bet for my compelling offer of 50 lap dances if any of his regiment could say that 99% of their DAY TO DAY legal stuff is not covered by uk law, but not even a single punt even from the more vocal members of the regiment including cucking, davemonkey, willo and Dannyh. "Them blo$dy english! Just cant rely on em" He hoofed. "You cant say THAT, i protested, thats bigoted" to which he replied "dont be a t*** johnyboy" er ok then but does this mean that there is a possibility you will become a Brighton supporter? Or perhaps danny, davemonkey, willo and cucking are softening towards the remain campaign? Hoof remained eerily silent.
We knew however that the sunny sunday could not last and that we had to return to our trenches the next day when talk of war would no doubt reemerge because some of us truly believe that the eu, with trade inderdependency, diplomacy and a shared economically prosperous future has led to the longest period of european peacetime - 80 YEARS! the longest of the last millenia (i accept i will be corrected on this one). As i left i understood that Hoof would be trying to get me in a half nelson, or beating seven bells of cyber stuffing out of me the next, "its all for King and country, you understand Johnyboy" hoof called out. "Yeh i understand hoof" i shrugged resigned to the knowledge that even with the impending threat of war announced by HIS prime-minister this morning, the real threat of Brexit still exists

Knock yourself out.

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A nice part of a recent documentary that made me smile when I thought of you stamping your feet and ordering back the tide.

There's plenty I'd like to rebut in your er... what's the plural of "rhetoric", but... well. I have to work and stuff. I'm sure you do too. But I'll repeat: EU SI's, regulations and directives are transcribed into UK law - it is very rare you come across the source EU regulation, directive or act rather than the UK legal act the government is hogtied to implement it. But it's OK, right? Our MPs can vote on EU regulations in parliament, and in theory reject them, right? Wrong. Once published here:

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They become UK law as a binding legislative act. No ifs, no buts. When you say "I don't come into contact with EU law "DAY-TO-DAY" you merely expose your ignorance. Feel free to search here:

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davenotamonkey Flag 12 May 16 8.53pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Ok so i have spent my day going through the conveyancing which i had to do because this is a large chunk of change for me. I also kept a little eye out for the 40% nay 70% of eu law. I had to go through a few covenants, building contracts and a niggly border dispute with a neighbour who was throwing the book at my vendor because of a 3inch intrusion from a planter ffs!!. At the end i spoke to my lawyer and said i had a few wording changes but nothing significant. But i could have asked (from davemonkeys advice) hang on what about the european credit mortgage thingy but knew he would reply with "listen Johnyboy stop talkin out of your elbow, you are not even arranging a mortgage" and that would be something with the mortgage company, not conveyancing right? Right so i didnt ask. But then i thought i better tell Paul (cos he has done my legals for 20 years) ....but Paul surely atleast 40% nay 70% of this contract is missing because i cant find any mention of the eu cross border underpants law or any other eu law for that matter. I am sure that there may be some overarching eu law that protects consumers and prevents unfair practice but i honestly could not find one. So what should i do with davesmonkey advice .....i should maybe ask Paul but you can probably imagine his response. You know what i should probably change my lawyer for being too uk centric.
But ....in defence i do have a credit agreement for my mobile, although all the key stuff is ofcourse under uk law of contract but again there is an overarching agreement under eu law that will force mobile companies to lower their roaming charges but surely thats a good thing right?
And then i thought about 6 months ago i had to do jury service and sat on 3 jurys and i swear not once did i hear any mention of eu laws in the charges that the 3 defendents faced....although again there are some overarching pesky european human rights laws right? Well youd probably hope so? But it remains true to say 99% oc my day to day experience of legal matters are completely unaffected by eu law.
And then i just thought this 40% nay 70% claim distorts the so called facts.
Take Hoofs example that we will all be living under Sharia law if we vote remain. I took it as a joke hence my shiraz reply...it was a joke right? But what is happening is that we taking these extremely remote possibilities and using this to push their case. Some could say that there is also a possibility that Hoof will have a sex change, start supporting Brighton and start dancing classes. Highly unlikely in my opinion and i know he will calling me silly and facetious (should actually take it as a compliment Hoof cos i think you are the least likely poster on here to start dance classes)....but it is not impossible is it. But then if i start using this tiny possibility as the basis for my case, i should be told that i am at best exaggerrating or actually being completely misleading or even offensive. And so it is with all this legal talk of 40% nay 70% of our laws coming from the eu and i will bet any of you 50 lap dances (your up Hoof -first gig) if you can tell me that in your DAY TO DAY experience of legal matters you are severely or negtively impacted by eu law. I defer to my more learned legal friends ofcourse!!

As for the "cheaper phone calls" rubbish, I'm sure you're very aware that it was (as much legislation is) a hand-down from the OECD, dressed up as an EU perk. It was implemented by India, Latin America, Asia and the US over 3 years ago. But yeah, nice of the EU to finally get there. It was only proposed (by the INTUG) in 1999.

Why did it take so long? Well, things move slow in the EU. They have to take the WTO or OECD rules and then add all their anti-competitive extras into the legislation (just in case we had any silly ideas of trying to be internationally competitive) they then fax down to the member states. Great, eh?

Here's the reality of it: much of the rules "faxed down" from Brussels have themselves been faxed in from the likes of WTO, OECD, UNECE, CAC etc etc. They then take the rules, EU-ify them (far exceed the source guidelines and thus make member-states less competitive) and hand them down. As members of the EU, we have given up our seat on these organisations. Norway, Switzerland, Gambia sit at the table, we don't. We must have one entity representing ourselves and the (divergent) interests of 27 others, all crammed into that one seat. Leaving the EU allows us to cut out the stagnating over-regulated middleman and become competitive with the wider world again.

Oh. And I have no interest in a lap-dance. My other half is smoking hot.

 

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JohnyBoy Flag 12 May 16 9.10pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

As for the "cheaper phone calls" rubbish, I'm sure you're very aware that it was (as much legislation is) a hand-down from the OECD, dressed up as an EU perk. It was implemented by India, Latin America, Asia and the US over 3 years ago. But yeah, nice of the EU to finally get there. It was only proposed (by the INTUG) in 1999.

Why did it take so long? Well, things move slow in the EU. They have to take the WTO or OECD rules and then add all their anti-competitive extras into the legislation (just in case we had any silly ideas of trying to be internationally competitive) they then fax down to the member states. Great, eh?

Here's the reality of it: much of the rules "faxed down" from Brussels have themselves been faxed in from the likes of WTO, OECD, UNECE, CAC etc etc. They then take the rules, EU-ify them (far exceed the source guidelines and thus make member-states less competitive) and hand them down. As members of the EU, we have given up our seat on these organisations. Norway, Switzerland, Gambia sit at the table, we don't. We must have one entity representing ourselves and the (divergent) interests of 27 others, all crammed into that one seat. Leaving the EU allows us to cut out the stagnating over-regulated middleman and become competitive with the wider world again.

Oh. And I have no interest in a lap-dance. My other half is smoking hot.

Perhaps she might be interested in a lap dance then??!!

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 12 May 16 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

We can't ignore EU legislation but we can certainly challenge it. Any doubts about the EU's legitimacy for making a particular piece of legislation because it does not meet a Treaty objective then national courts can suspend the domestic measures which implement it and an amendment will be made by a respective Act of Parliament.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 13 May 16 6.11am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Surprise surprise. Immigration figures have been manipulated:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 13 May 16 6.12am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

We can't ignore EU legislation but we can certainly challenge it. Any doubts about the EU's legitimacy for making a particular piece of legislation because it does not meet a Treaty objective then national courts can suspend the domestic measures which implement it and an amendment will be made by a respective Act of Parliament.

Yeah right. Keep fooling yourlsef Michael and when the Federal superstate arrives, you can then look back on this time as the last opportunity to stop that which Napoleon started and Hitler had a crack at.


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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Hoof Hearted 13 May 16 9.21am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Surprise surprise. Immigration figures have been manipulated:

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Worse though Matt.

They're trying to just wave it away by claiming that the gap is due to short term visitors to the UK like seasonal fruit and veg pickers.

Doesn't wash.

Seasonal fruit pickers would have already got NI numbers from their previous visits.

Somebody or group is cooking the books and trying to suppress the news of exactly how many immigrants are arriving in the UK every year... the actual figure is probably at least DOUBLE what the "official" statistics are.

VOTE LEAVE.

 

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