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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 22 Sep 15 10.12am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Quote jcreedy at 21 Sep 2015 3.38pm

More 'fit to work' joy today.
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Pathetic socialist journalism at i's worst. " A man with severe depression is at risk of suicide if he spills his coffee in the morning.

I have been on the receiving end of living with someone who had severe depression and to blame any one trigger shows a complete lack of any understanding of the decease.

And how the Government are to blame is a f***ing reach even by JC (same initials as Jeremy Corbyn ..just saying) standards.

The department of Work and Pensions made the decision not Cameron so it is a departmental issue and an individual error was clearly made sweet FA to do with politics or Corbyn.

How that’s pig f***ers fault is beyond me, like I said lazy socialist bollicks.


Edited by dannyh (22 Sep 2015 10.12am)

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Hoof Hearted 22 Sep 15 10.22am

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Quote jcreedy at 21 Sep 2015 3.38pm

More 'fit to work' joy today.
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Pathetic socialist journalism at i's worst. " A man with severe depression is at risk of suicide if he spills his coffee in the morning.

I have been on the receiving end of living with someone who had severe depression and to blame any one trigger shows a complete lack of any understanding of the decease.

And how the Government are to blame is a f***ing reach even by JC (same initials as Jeremy Corbyn ..just saying) standards.

The department of Work and Pensions made the decision not Cameron so it is a departmental issue and an individual error was clearly made sweet FA to do with politics or Corbyn.

How that’s pig f***ers fault is beyond me, like I said lazy socialist bollicks.


Edited by dannyh (22 Sep 2015 10.12am)


Also danny, it's worth reading susmik's input on this particular Coroner's own political motives when making her judgement on this case.

Coroners have more "licence" than Judges in applying the law and arriving at outcomes of death and some Coroners have sparked controversy in the past as they are largely unchecked in my experience.

 

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But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.

Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.

It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!

83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.

Enjoy.


Post of the month - spot on.



Agreed...... Top class comeback dave!


All these posts do is show your age.

Try asking someone under 30 what they think. Loads of the people that backed Corbyn are da yoof. Somewhat bizarre really given he comes from a by-gone era. Not many of you old duffers actually got their act together to join up just to put in a spoiling vote. But of course, you wouldn't know that if you only read the Daily Mail/Telegraph/Metro/Evening Standard.

 

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Quote serial thriller at 20 Sep 2015 11.11pm

But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.

Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.

It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!

83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.

Enjoy.


Post of the month - spot on.



Agreed...... Top class comeback dave!


All these posts do is show your age.

Try asking someone under 30 what they think. Loads of the people that backed Corbyn are da yoof. Somewhat bizarre really given he comes from a by-gone era. Not many of you old duffers actually got their act together to join up just to put in a spoiling vote. But of course, you wouldn't know that if you only read the Daily Mail/Telegraph/Metro/Evening Standard.


Oh the irony.

 


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Quote nickgusset at 21 Sep 2015 11.05pm

As Corbyn has made renationalisation of the railways a priority, I thought I'd share this prescient clip from an old spitting image.

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Renationalisation of the railways is one close to my heart as a commuter for at least 3 hours a day. I'd be happy with anything which made the service better and/or cheaper. I have yet to see any evidence that renationalisation would do that - what exactly is Corbyn proposing? More central investment? Or does he just object to private companies making a profit from it?

Not necessarily disagreeing, just haven't yet seen a "nationalising the railways will improve things because we will..." argument laying out the proposed causes and effects.

 

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Quote npn at 22 Sep 2015 10.34am

Quote nickgusset at 21 Sep 2015 11.05pm

As Corbyn has made renationalisation of the railways a priority, I thought I'd share this prescient clip from an old spitting image.

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Renationalisation of the railways is one close to my heart as a commuter for at least 3 hours a day. I'd be happy with anything which made the service better and/or cheaper. I have yet to see any evidence that renationalisation would do that - what exactly is Corbyn proposing? More central investment? Or does he just object to private companies making a profit from it?

Not necessarily disagreeing, just haven't yet seen a "nationalising the railways will improve things because we will..." argument laying out the proposed causes and effects.


£400 return to Manchester from Devon and not even first class - I saw that fare online recently - is a pretty good case for the prosecution.

Trains were a bit crap before nationalisation and a a bit crap after. The difference is one had reasonable prices and was not driven by profit and the other is mostly about the filthy lucre and not so much a public service.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 22 Sep 15 10.57am

Quote dannyh at 22 Sep 2015 10.12am

Quote jcreedy at 21 Sep 2015 3.38pm

More 'fit to work' joy today.
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Pathetic socialist journalism at i's worst. " A man with severe depression is at risk of suicide if he spills his coffee in the morning.

I have been on the receiving end of living with someone who had severe depression and to blame any one trigger shows a complete lack of any understanding of the decease.

And how the Government are to blame is a f***ing reach even by JC (same initials as Jeremy Corbyn ..just saying) standards.

The department of Work and Pensions made the decision not Cameron so it is a departmental issue and an individual error was clearly made sweet FA to do with politics or Corbyn.

How that’s pig f***ers fault is beyond me, like I said lazy socialist bollicks.


Edited by dannyh (22 Sep 2015 10.12am)

Depends - If the coroners verdict is that it played a significant role, then its a factor. But I tend to agree with you, having suffered with clinical depression my whole adult life, that its not a factor of one thing, or even one huge thing, but a collection of the smaller things in life.

But a coroners inquest is to establish the facts of the case. And the decision of a government body should never override the decision of a qualified medical professional, when dealing with someone's individual case.

of course, this is a problem initiated by Labour, with the ATOS Fit for Work program, in which incentives were based on 'positive results', the actual number of successful appeals under this scheme pretty much suggests its a total failure.

But it has long suited governments to look like they're doing something, rather than say actually doing something (such as actual spending on mental health provision in the UK).


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 22 Sep 15 11.02am

Quote npn at 22 Sep 2015 10.34am

Quote nickgusset at 21 Sep 2015 11.05pm

As Corbyn has made renationalisation of the railways a priority, I thought I'd share this prescient clip from an old spitting image.

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Renationalisation of the railways is one close to my heart as a commuter for at least 3 hours a day. I'd be happy with anything which made the service better and/or cheaper. I have yet to see any evidence that renationalisation would do that - what exactly is Corbyn proposing? More central investment? Or does he just object to private companies making a profit from it?

Not necessarily disagreeing, just haven't yet seen a "nationalising the railways will improve things because we will..." argument laying out the proposed causes and effects.

Presumably that will be outlined in the manifesto for the election. Its a bit early in the term to be talking about exact details and hashing out the fine print.

Personally I'd nationalize the railways, if I could, without compensation to the shareholders, as its a f**king disgrace. I don't object to profit and people making a profit, but the question should be who does the countries rail network serve, the owners or the individuals who use it (including commuting to and from work).

Something like public transport may need to actually run at a loss anyhow, if by doing so you can facilitate employment and tax return improvements elsewhere.

 


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Quote Mapletree at 22 Sep 2015 10.31am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 21 Sep 2015 9.51am

Quote OldFella at 21 Sep 2015 9.44am

Quote davenotamonkey at 21 Sep 2015 12.37am

Quote serial thriller at 20 Sep 2015 11.11pm

But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.

Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.

It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!

83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.

Enjoy.


Post of the month - spot on.



Agreed...... Top class comeback dave!


All these posts do is show your age.

Try asking someone under 30 what they think. Loads of the people that backed Corbyn are da yoof. Somewhat bizarre really given he comes from a by-gone era. Not many of you old duffers actually got their act together to join up just to put in a spoiling vote. But of course, you wouldn't know that if you only read the Daily Mail/Telegraph/Metro/Evening Standard.

Left wing wally talking to himself again alert...

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 22 Sep 2015 10.43am

Quote npn at 22 Sep 2015 10.34am

Quote nickgusset at 21 Sep 2015 11.05pm

As Corbyn has made renationalisation of the railways a priority, I thought I'd share this prescient clip from an old spitting image.

[Link]


Renationalisation of the railways is one close to my heart as a commuter for at least 3 hours a day. I'd be happy with anything which made the service better and/or cheaper. I have yet to see any evidence that renationalisation would do that - what exactly is Corbyn proposing? More central investment? Or does he just object to private companies making a profit from it?

Not necessarily disagreeing, just haven't yet seen a "nationalising the railways will improve things because we will..." argument laying out the proposed causes and effects.


£400 return to Manchester from Devon and not even first class - I saw that fare online recently - is a pretty good case for the prosecution.

Trains were a bit crap before nationalisation and a a bit crap after. The difference is one had reasonable prices and was not driven by profit and the other is mostly about the filthy lucre and not so much a public service.

Exeter to Manchester return is usually under a 100 quid if booked in advance. I was working there in Feb and the return from Caterham was 85 including tube.

 

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Hoof Hearted 22 Sep 15 11.21am

Quote Mapletree at 22 Sep 2015 10.31am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 21 Sep 2015 9.51am

Quote OldFella at 21 Sep 2015 9.44am

Quote davenotamonkey at 21 Sep 2015 12.37am

Quote serial thriller at 20 Sep 2015 11.11pm

But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.

Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.

It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!

83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.

Enjoy.


Post of the month - spot on.



Agreed...... Top class comeback dave!


All these posts do is show your age.

Try asking someone under 30 what they think. Loads of the people that backed Corbyn are da yoof. Somewhat bizarre really given he comes from a by-gone era. Not many of you old duffers actually got their act together to join up just to put in a spoiling vote. But of course, you wouldn't know that if you only read the Daily Mail/Telegraph/Metro/Evening Standard.


Corbyn's popularity would be evenly spread between those over 30 and those under.

There are plenty of 'old duffers' that voted for him and hang on his every word.

Leave it to Bert the Nobhead from Epsom to educate us tirelessly about the evils of the right wing press... I don't take a newspaper, none of my friends or family do either... maybe we just don't like what we see and hear on BBC TV/Radio and make our own minds up?

As for paying £3 to the Labour Party.... not a chance... that would get me 12 strawberry cornetto's in Sainsbury's.

 

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Quote chris123 at 22 Sep 2015 11.17am

Quote Kermit8 at 22 Sep 2015 10.43am

Quote npn at 22 Sep 2015 10.34am

Quote nickgusset at 21 Sep 2015 11.05pm

As Corbyn has made renationalisation of the railways a priority, I thought I'd share this prescient clip from an old spitting image.

[Link]


Renationalisation of the railways is one close to my heart as a commuter for at least 3 hours a day. I'd be happy with anything which made the service better and/or cheaper. I have yet to see any evidence that renationalisation would do that - what exactly is Corbyn proposing? More central investment? Or does he just object to private companies making a profit from it?

Not necessarily disagreeing, just haven't yet seen a "nationalising the railways will improve things because we will..." argument laying out the proposed causes and effects.


£400 return to Manchester from Devon and not even first class - I saw that fare online recently - is a pretty good case for the prosecution.

Trains were a bit crap before nationalisation and a a bit crap after. The difference is one had reasonable prices and was not driven by profit and the other is mostly about the filthy lucre and not so much a public service.

Exeter to Manchester return is usually under a 100 quid if booked in advance. I was working there in Feb and the return from Caterham was 85 including tube.


You have to wonder wonder what the equivalent price for that same distance train journey would be in France, Spain or Germany on their nationalised railways. I bet even booking on the day it would not be anywhere near £100.

The £400 one did make me laugh though. How do they have the gall?

 


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