quote]leggedstruggle at 18 Aug 2015 5.50pm

The USA started from a 'clean sheet', did not have established race, language, religion and culture - apart from the indigenous population who were more of less 'ethnically cleansed' (you would have thought they would have welcomed the vibrant diversity of the immigrants wouldn't you?) The USA does indeed have communities of different races etc. They get on well don't they? No suggestion of racial tensions, riots etc? Also, each nationality revels in their particular 'heritage' - ask the American Irish or Italians what nationality they identify with.

The USA started from a 'clean sheet', did not have established race, language, religion and culture - apart from the indigenous population who were more of less 'ethnically cleansed' (you would have thought they would have welcomed the vibrant diversity of the immigrants wouldn't you?) The USA does indeed have communities of different races etc. They get on well don't they? No suggestion of racial tensions, riots etc? Also, each nationality revels in their particular 'heritage' - ask the American Irish or Italians what nationality they identify with.

Canada? The English speaking Canadians get on really well with the French speakers don't they? No calls for an independent French state within Canada is there?

Australia of course ethnically cleansed its indigenous population and is now experiencing the usual problems of mass immigration of people of different race, religion, language and culture.

British Empire ended peacefully? What apart from America, Canada, Ireland, South Africa, India, Malaya, Cyprus, Kenya, Southern Rhodesia, Palestine, etc

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USA? started from a clean sheet?Yes a clean sheet of existing established cultures and languages and religions,largely geographically separate.

Very established Spanish culture and language in the South West and California. French culture established in Louisiana (Louisiana law based on French law to this day).British on the east cost

Race issues are very much due to the perversity of slavery and its lingering effects.Not the artificial creation of the USA based on people of differing ethnicities,language and religion per se.

As for present -day Canada? No,I'd say generally now a belief in a united Canada as the way forward.A main reason? policy of multiculturalism.Also,another generally stunning example of immigration from, all over the place within the past 60 years and policies of multi culturalism.

Have you lived in Australia?I have.Its also generally a stunning example of successful mass immigration over the past 60 years of people from all over the place.

Of course there were violent uprisings within the British Empire.I took issue with your statement that such was largely the outcome.And even your list of "insurrections" is wrong.Take S Africa.Empire didn't end because of an insurrection.Rather a conscious decision decades later to grant dominion status and later a revulsion following the introduction post 1948-1950's of apartheid. Your other example of the USA is misplaced.The origins of that"insurrection" were about tax not nationalism.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 6.11pm)

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USA? started from a clean sheet?Yes a clean sheet of existing established cultures and languages and religions,largely geographically separate.

Very established Spanish culture and language in the South West and California. French culture established in Louisiana (Louisiana law based on French law to this day).British on the east cost

Race issues are very much due to the perversity of slavery and its lingering effects.Not the artificial creation of the USA based on people of differing ethnicities,language and religion per se.

As for present -day Canada? No,I'd say generally now a belief in a united Canada as the way forward.A main reason? policy of multiculturalism.Also,another generally stunning example of immigration from, all over the place within the past 60 years and policies of multi culturalism.

Have you lived in Australia?I have.Its also generally a stunning example of successful mass immigration over the past 60 years of people from all over the place.

Of course there were violent uprisings within the British Empire.I took issue with your statement that such was largely the outcome.And even your list of "insurrections" is wrong.Take S Africa.Empire didn't end because of an insurrection.Rather a conscious decision decades later to grant dominion status and later a revulsion following the introduction post 1948-1950's of apartheid. Your other example of the USA is misplaced.The origins of that"insurrection" were about tax not nationalism.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 6.11pm)

It's pointless discussing it really, you just come out with the usual "it's all the fault of slavery", you turn a blind eye to the many tensions and problems in multi-cultural societies, and you always will. It's quite funny though that you are playing down the desire of Empire countries to free themselves from Colonial rule and revert to their own Nationalism - as if they were quite happy under the yoke apart from paying taxes and this and that.

Judge put it very well earlier "For many reasons, people just don't mix too well." But of course you will never recognise that.

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

I'd say people of a certain disposition don't mix too well.
The rest of us seem to be doing quite a good job.

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You know I can't ask the obvious questions, and you would not answer them anyway, so it's pretty pointless continuing with this.

Edited by leggedstruggle (18 Aug 2015 6.42pm)

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

As mentioned to Nick, circumstances are such that I can't really ask you the obvious questions, so little point in continuing - you can say what you like and call me whatever you like, unfortunately I can't reciprocate.

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

There have been many of course:

Thobile Mpumza
Thabiso Thelejane
Anele Mdizeni
Makhosandile Mkhonjwa
Julius Mancotywa
Janeveke Liau
Thabiso Mosebetsane
Mafolisi Mabiya
Ntandazo Nokamba
Fezile Saphendu
“Ngxande” (not properly identified)
Sitilega Gadlela
Henry Pato
Michael Ngweyi
Patrick Akhona Jijase
Bonginkosi Yona
Andries Msenyeno
Mzukisi Sompeta
Jackson Lehura
Mphumzeni Ngxande
Mpangeli Lukusa
Mongezeleli Ntenetya
Cebisile Yana
Mguneni Noki
Khawamare Elias Monesa
Bongani Ndongophele
John Ledingoane
Babalo Mtshazi
Thembinkosi Gwelani
Nkosiyabo Xalabile
Bongani Mdze
Teleng Mohai
Modisaotsile Sagalala
Molefi Ntsoele
Thapelo Eric Mabebe
Tembelakhe Mati
Sandi Teyise
Mlanduli Hendry Saba
Pumzile Sokanyile

Striking miners shot dead by the police force of the Jacob Zuma ANC.

Edited by leggedstruggle (18 Aug 2015 7.42pm)

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

Nail on head.....I was just too lazy and busy today to go through the counter argument.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Aug 2015 7.49pm)

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