What we are seeing play out....if you can forgive the verb, 'play' being used here, has reminded me of the difference between the ancient Greek method of war and the Roman.

It's a generationlisation of course but the Greeks would arrange their wars by certain rules. Spartans wouldn't make war during their religious festivals and Greeks in general avoided campaigns during the planting season.

Most of their wars would end in a settlement.

It's true that in many instances the Romans would do the same...especially if it benefited them in far flung lands. However, this isn't the case when it came to the Carthaginians....which was another semitic civilisation this time having its capital in North Africa.

In their third war, which was largely started by Rome, they went with the intent of destroying Carthage once and for all while they were weak.

When they beat Carthage in their final battle they took the capital and killed every single inhabitant they found, women and children included. They ensured that it could never rise to trouble them again.....In their words, they 'salted the earth'....Not literally of course but it meant they wiped Carthage out.

Essentially this is what Israel wants to do with Palestinians as an oppositional force. In elite theory you are taught that a 'castle' can't brook another rival 'castle' in the same area of control. This reality has played out all through history and it's as true now as it was then.

It's why multiculturalism was largely a lie from the start. The more diverse the culture the more inevitable the conflicts.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

But it's fine if a ethnically homogeneous group is systematically replaced by a non homogeneous population against its will. As has happened in London and most of our cities and surrounding areas.

The left are fine with the ethnic cleansing they like.

I oppose both.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 10.36am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The end result of ethnic cleansing is the same, so in that respect yes it is.

You have supported that so of course you don't want to talk about it.

Like I say, I oppose both.

You are comfortable with one and not the other. So when I read objections to ethnic cleansing from the left this point stands out like a sore thumb.

Other than that I won't labour the point.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 11.02am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

That's completely untrue.

'The end result for you is some more melanin on the high street.' That conclusion fits within ethnic cleansing due to human behaviour in the real world.

I agree there is no 'forced removal', however the result is inevitable and is true for all ethnicities as they will act in the same way and mostly move out of areas once a thirty percent threshold is reached....according to research.

So what I said is true on ethnic cleansing. You are only against the method used. You in fact have no issue with ethnic cleansing done the way you prefer....Well, within Europe apparently.

You support the same conclusion and that makes the left hypocrites on that term.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 11.51am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So let's get this right....it isn't what the inevitable end result is but instead it's what some people 'say' they want. The inevitable result was clearly stated by Powell back in the late sixties. So it was hardly rocket science. This is basic 101 human behaviour.

So for you It's all about the intent....something entirely subjective and not provable.

No Dann, what matters is the result.....not wishy washy waffle.

The British have been in some places and are in the process of being ethnically cleansed from these islands as will the Irish.

Unless something changes they will be a minority in thirty years and from there....well.

You are guilty of supporting ethnic cleansing just by a different method.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 2.35pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Again, you don't get to invent your own definitions.

Another definition of ethnic cleansing, this one from the UN, is:

"a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas."

Can you find one definition that would consider what you describe as ethnic cleansing?

I'd also reiterate that I think conflating the plight of Palestinians with that of white people in Britain is pathetic - I appreciate you have a fixation on immigration and replacement theory narratives, but this is the crowbar of all crowbars.