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georgenorman 09 Aug 23 12.23pm | |
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Rather than use the so called experts to predict future financial situations you might as well use animals, like Paul, the oracle octopus, who correctly predicted 12 out 0f 14 World Cup games in 2010. (After the quarter-final prediction when Paul correctly predicted that Argentina would lose to Germany, the South Americans threatened to kill the octopus and put him in a paella.)
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Teddy Eagle 09 Aug 23 12.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it isn’t. Discriminating between politians and those who aren’t so exposed could make sense. Discriminating between particular opinions on the sole basis of an opinion, not so. Nope. Didn't get a word of that.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 23 1.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Nope. Didn't get a word of that. Not even the no?
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Teddy Eagle 09 Aug 23 3.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not even the no? That got lost in the forest of obscurantism.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 23 4.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That got lost in the forest of obscurantism. As it was the first statement it is in plain view and not the least bit lost. I also believe you understand perfectly well the point being made.
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Teddy Eagle 09 Aug 23 5.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As it was the first statement it is in plain view and not the least bit lost. I also believe you understand perfectly well the point being made. Oh, there was a point. OK, that's something to work with anyway.
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georgenorman 09 Aug 23 6.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Oh, there was a point. OK, that's something to work with anyway. "A mass of Latin words falls upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outline and covering up all the details. The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics'. All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred, and schizophrenia. When the general atmosphere is bad, language must suffer." [Orwell]
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Spiderman Horsham 09 Aug 23 6.27pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It's not surprising to see UK banks behaving in this way. As for the BOE, it is a root cause, with its stone-age pocket-lining economic policies, of the zero growth and investment in the UK since 2010. Incessant interest rate rises are themselves inflationary, how could they not be, and they depress the economy forcing it into recession. Inflation was forecast to fall to 6.5% by the end of this year before Sunak and all these tax and BOE interest hikes. Its time to curb their excesses and bring them into line, as the new Italian government is doing. To think they blame the very people they have damaged, wage earners, not themselves, for the UKs problems. Is that the same BOE who were totally anti Brexit and have done their utmost to scupper it? Surely you support them?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 23 8.22pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
"A mass of Latin words falls upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outline and covering up all the details. The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics'. All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred, and schizophrenia. When the general atmosphere is bad, language must suffer." [Orwell] “Those who have nothing original to say quote others, for it can create an illusion of wisdom, where none exists.” [Wisbech Eagle 2023] Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Aug 2023 8.43pm)
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georgenorman 09 Aug 23 9.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
“Those who have nothing original to say quote others, for it can create an illusion of wisdom, where none exists.” [Wisbech Eagle 2023] Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Aug 2023 8.43pm) I know Orwell was prophetic, but it is uncanny how so many of his quotes are tailored made for you. Mind you, types like you have always been around.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 23 9.38pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I know Orwell was prophetic, but it is uncanny how so many of his quotes are tailored made for you. Mind you, types like you have always been around. An interesting and great writer of prose I acknowledge, but prophetic not so. He warned about totalitarianism but that’s not to predict it. That the right imagine it is what we are seeing is simply evidence of their paranoia. What’s really amusing is the way the right seem to think his words support their views. This could not be further from the truth, as he was a socialist. Something he went at great pains to point out. Don’t believe me? Try reading this short analysis of the political thinking behind his writing. It contains some Orwell quotes I doubt you will have seen before:-
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georgenorman 09 Aug 23 10.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
An interesting and great writer of prose I acknowledge, but prophetic not so. He warned about totalitarianism but that’s not to predict it. That the right imagine it is what we are seeing is simply evidence of their paranoia. What’s really amusing is the way the right seem to think his words support their views. This could not be further from the truth, as he was a socialist. Something he went at great pains to point out. Don’t believe me? Try reading this short analysis of the political thinking behind his writing. It contains some Orwell quotes I doubt you will have seen before:- Certainly Orwell was a Socialist, but Socialism then was concerned with bettering the lives of ordinary working people, he would be appalled by the current Woke version. He wasn't too keen on many of his comrades back then: "One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words socialism and communism draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, Nature-cure quack, pacifist and feminist in England. . . . We have reached a stage when the very word socialism calls up, on the one hand, a picture of airplanes, tractors and huge glittering factories of glass and concrete; on the other, a picture of vegetarians with wilting beards, of Bolshevik commissars (half gangster, half gramophone), or earnest ladies in sandals, shock-headed Marxists chewing polysyllables, escaped Quakers, birth control fanatics, and Labour Party backstairs-crawlers ..... If only the sandals and pistachio-colored shirts could be put in a pile and burnt, and every vegetarian, teetotaler and creeping Jesus sent home to Welwyn Garden City to do his yoga exercises quietly .... As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents." Orwell great attribute was his honesty and ability to see through the spin, hypocrisy and downright lies of the far left. This fits very well with some of the things the likes of you spout. [I expect I have seen the quotes as I have read practically everything that Orwell ever wrote.] Edited by georgenorman (09 Aug 2023 10.17pm)
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