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MrRobbo Chaldon 14 Apr 23 11.21am | |
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Originally posted by Davepalace707
Agree sounds ideal. Good luck with finding someone who can do all that yet for some reason is available. Don't have to be available, jsut have to be gettable. We might forget at times, but outside the top 20/30 EU jobs. A middling Prem club is going to be highly sought after. As with player recruitment, we just need to be prepared to fish in different ponds vs the usual list of candidates. De Zerbi for example, very few had heard of him but look at how well he's doing now.
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Davepalace707 Northumberland 14 Apr 23 11.31am | |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Don't have to be available, jsut have to be gettable. We might forget at times, but outside the top 20/30 EU jobs. A middling Prem club is going to be highly sought after. As with player recruitment, we just need to be prepared to fish in different ponds vs the usual list of candidates. De Zerbi for example, very few had heard of him but look at how well he's doing now. True
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Mwncisee Middlesbrough 14 Apr 23 3.28pm | |
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Just as a point of interest regarding Slot, which fits in/answers some of your thoughts above, Slot took over from Advocaat at Feyenoord. Advocaat was very pragmatic and defensive with the way he got the team to play. Slot is credited with havning the same players playing his style of football: `The team look completely brand new and are playing a beautiful brand of football in pure cohesion, almost as if the players have been together all their lives in the same side. Even Arne Slot himself will be surprised by how quickly the players have adapted to his philosophy of the game`
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Apr 23 3.36pm | |
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Suffice to say if certain managers are sought by a few PL clubs, we might not be deemed as attractive to them as some of the others.
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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 14 Apr 23 4.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Absolutely agree, the same with FdB. There's no point having a philosophy that does not account for or even completely disregards the limitations or unique capabilities of the squad. It would be a bit like Pulis insisting on launching the ball into the box from a throw in with an U'10s team. That may have worked with Delap in your team but no 10 year old is gonna achieve the same result. Gianluigi Buffon is thought of as one of the best goalies of all time, our memories of him would be very different had a manager insisted on him being a target man up front due to his height and the style he wanted to play. Roy's pragmatism may be the best thing we could hope for at this time and need in lieu of PV showing anything remotely close. Going forward we need a realist who can push us forward, not an idealist who reverses us towards catastrophe.
Lets not forget the crybaby players who some are still at the club and cant pass very well still. I expect FDB was promised more and didn't get it as well with him arriving late to the club didn't help what was it close to end of pre season he came into the club. I expect us to go for a manager who has Prem experience. The thing is the club is run with lack of ambition you can see it throughout the club when you look at the level of staff unless they change this it wont matter who the manager is (this is why Potter i could see rejecting us Brighton had very good staff wise setup which is why recruitment has been good whats palaces some ex players)
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PJEagle London 14 Apr 23 6.05pm | |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Lets not forget the crybaby players who some are still at the club and cant pass very well still. I expect FDB was promised more and didn't get it as well with him arriving late to the club didn't help what was it close to end of pre season he came into the club. I expect us to go for a manager who has Prem experience. The thing is the club is run with lack of ambition you can see it throughout the club when you look at the level of staff unless they change this it wont matter who the manager is (this is why Potter i could see rejecting us Brighton had very good staff wise setup which is why recruitment has been good whats palaces some ex players)
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Runningman Keston 14 Apr 23 6.33pm | |
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Originally posted by PJEagle
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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 15 Apr 23 12.48am | |
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Originally posted by Runningman
The media has come out with some silly figures of claims one minute he was on 60m over 5 years then it was 50m. Next they claimed he would be paid all of that for being fired not going to happen. Mourinho for example who has been sacked from 3 prem clubs had received around 40m in total (not even going to get into tax etc and how Jose is a different level manager which matters)
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PJEagle London 15 Apr 23 7.42am | |
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Originally posted by Davepalace707
Agree sounds ideal. Good luck with finding someone who can do all that yet for some reason is available. I think his name is spelt P o t t e r? ! He just wasnt given the time needed at Chelsea? He had a dozen new players to build into a team by next Saturday. At Palace we already have some great young players, especially if Olise stays? And there's a very promising group of young academy players who need a chance to shine. We need a new RB or RBW .We already have promising young strikers like Umeh or Gordon, who might do the job, if given the chance Edited by PJEagle (15 Apr 2023 7.51am)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Apr 23 8.23am | |
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Originally posted by PJEagle
I think his name is spelt P o t t e r? ! He just wasnt given the time needed at Chelsea? He had a dozen new players to build into a team by next Saturday. At Palace we already have some great young players, especially if Olise stays? And there's a very promising group of young academy players who need a chance to shine. We need a new RB or RBW .We already have promising young strikers like Umeh or Gordon, who might do the job, if given the chance Edited by PJEagle (15 Apr 2023 7.51am) Potter went to Chelsea as not one of the elite managers with a succussful CV in terms of winning trophies.He was the Brighton manager whose team finished 15th, 16th and just over halfway in the PL. When he joined Chelsea they were 6th and he departed with them languishing in 11th place so he never 'Hit the ground running'.Performances were below expectations as were results in the PL, however he did take Chelsea into the quarter-finals of the Champions League.Supporters were not impressed and some of the 'Phone-Ins' left one in no doubt that they wanted him to be shown the door.Potter himself just looked as though he wanted to be away from the club. I was not surprised to hear the news that Chelsea had parted company with him and this might have been a relief to him.
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Spiderman Horsham 15 Apr 23 8.53am | |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
The media has come out with some silly figures of claims one minute he was on 60m over 5 years then it was 50m. Next they claimed he would be paid all of that for being fired not going to happen. Mourinho for example who has been sacked from 3 prem clubs had received around 40m in total (not even going to get into tax etc and how Jose is a different level manager which matters) £10-£12m pa. £13m in compensation
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Spiderman Horsham 15 Apr 23 8.55am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Potter went to Chelsea as not one of the elite managers with a succussful CV in terms of winning trophies.He was the Brighton manager whose team finished 15th, 16th and just over halfway in the PL. When he joined Chelsea they were 6th and he departed with them languishing in 11th place so he never 'Hit the ground running'.Performances were below expectations as were results in the PL, however he did take Chelsea into the quarter-finals of the Champions League.Supporters were not impressed and some of the 'Phone-Ins' left one in no doubt that they wanted him to be shown the door.Potter himself just looked as though he wanted to be away from the club. I was not surprised to hear the news that Chelsea had parted company with him and this might have been a relief to him.
The owner is barking mad, took on the job of DOF and just bought ridiculous amount of players. So many, there was not enough room in the training ground dressing rooms. Not all Potters fault imo.
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