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Ukraine Situation - Should We Be Worried?
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| W12 02 Mar 22 11.10am | |
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All I'm seeing is the usual hysterical fear p***. virtue signalling and disgusting war rhetoric from both blue checkmarks and friends and family who know nothing about geopolitics in the region and why we are in this position. f*** their little Ukraine flags and I'm almost at the stage where I want to put a Russian flag outside just to piss them off. Putin has every right to be in Ukraine protecting ethnic Russians and pushing back against NATO/EU globalist expansionism. The alphabet agencies have been all over Ukraine for decades and it's basically a puppet state / criminal enterprise / money laundering operation. All the while western nations including UK, US, Canada, Australia crack down hard with state sponsored violence on any descent for their freedoms being removed by law and existing constitutions/laws ignored. Like a good magician, they have you all watching the wrong hand.
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 Grumbles 02 Mar 22 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
1) One of the first things Trump did was put sanctions on Putin....bombed Syria, talked to North Korea, Putin....I mean was you asleep for 2016-20? 2) Trump does like autocrats for sure.....His relationship was far more productive that Biden's....which has been nothing short of disastrous. b) Yawn... 2020 just called.....it wants its conspiracy theories back. Meh. Pretty clear I wasn't the one asleep during this period nor was I stuck watching GAB videos on youtube, if you think any of the stuff you state was anything but a mitigated disaster.
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Rudi Hedman  Caterham 02 Mar 22 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Been good this morning to see Biden giving his support to the Iranian people. I had no idea Russia had invaded them too! Always reassuring to see somebody with the cerebral capacity of a drunk toddler in charge of the 'free world'. I always have the image of important private discussions going on with him asking if that’s ‘’what we’ll do/should do’’ rather than having any opinion or capacity to think or digest anything more than the sports scores and saying compassion several times in every public address. Impotent in every way.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Mar 22 11.13am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree 100%. Discussions over how to avoid this ever happening again, and how it did this time, must be postponed until this is achieved. It's both diversionary and dangerous to do so now. Let's not forget that the failure to do so would result in indeterminable loss of life, which is tragic no matter the peoples or circumstances, the displacement of undoubted millions and further encouragement of a despotic megalomaniac. Agree entirely.
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| W12 02 Mar 22 11.18am | |
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And all this whilst the "pandemic" disappears overnight from the news cycle and almost every COVID19 conspiracy theory is proven to be true. People now have the attention span of goldfish.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Mar 22 11.18am |
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Originally posted by W12
All I'm seeing is the usual hysterical fear p***. virtue signalling and disgusting war rhetoric from both blue checkmarks and friends and family who know nothing about geopolitics in the region and why we are in this position. f*** their little Ukraine flags and I'm almost at the stage where I want to put a Russian flag outside just to piss them off. Putin has every right to be in Ukraine protecting ethnic Russians and pushing back against NATO/EU globalist expansionism. The alphabet agencies have been all over Ukraine for decades and it's basically a puppet state / criminal enterprise / money laundering operation. All the while western nations including UK, US, Canada, Australia crack down hard with state sponsored violence on any descent for their freedoms being removed by law and existing constitutions/laws ignored. Like a good magician, they have you all watching the wrong hand. You are of course right, it's just a shame that Putin has to use very thinly veiled lies, false media, and a whole other artillery of nonsensical bo**ocks to achieve 'buy-in' for his invasion of another country and the murder of it's people which are of course for purely humanitarian goals.
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| W12 02 Mar 22 11.20am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
You are of course right, it's just a shame that Putin has to use very thinly veiled lies, false media, and a whole other artillery of nonsensical bo**ocks to achieve 'buy-in' for his invasion of another country and the murder of it's people which are of course for purely humanitarian goals. What was nonsensical and who has he murdered?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Mar 22 11.21am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Would putin have done this if Trump was still the president of the US. Yes, he would. The difference would be in the response. Trump admires, even envies, Putin. His America First agenda and lack of appetite for Nato (and the UN) means he would have been reluctant to commit to supporting Ukraine, seeing it as within Russia's sphere of influence and a European rather than an American problem. The divisions in the USA that Trump has exacerbated, especially following the refusal to accept the election result, has weakened the country. Putin not only knows this, he was partly instrumental in creating it. So he would have still invaded under a pretext but not faced the same degree of international resolve to ostracise. Trump would not have joined in with the financial sanctions, and would have resisted the strengthening of Nato force in Eastern Europe.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Mar 22 11.26am |
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Originally posted by W12
What was nonsensical and who has he murdered? Once again, you've got me! Stupid really, for me to have any doubt in Russian state media, the questioning of purely innocent 'military drills' etc. and of course to assume the numerous media reports and images of civilian casualties, a proportion of which are children, was anything but lies. I feel quite the fool now!
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| Stirlingsays 02 Mar 22 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Grumbles
Meh. Pretty clear I wasn't the one asleep during this period nor was I stuck watching GAB videos on youtube, if you think any of the stuff you state was anything but a mitigated disaster.
That's a contradiction. I'm starting to believe that you're the kind of guy who buys the Daily Mirror for the pictures.
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| W12 02 Mar 22 11.27am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Yes, he would. The difference would be in the response. Trump admires, even envies, Putin. His America First agenda and lack of appetite for Nato (and the UN) means he would have been reluctant to commit to supporting Ukraine, seeing it as within Russia's sphere of influence and a European rather than an American problem. The divisions in the USA that Trump has exacerbated, especially following the refusal to accept the election result, has weakened the country. Putin not only knows this, he was partly instrumental in creating it. So he would have still invaded under a pretext but not faced the same degree of international resolve to ostracise. Trump would not have joined in with the financial sanctions, and would have resisted the strengthening of Nato force in Eastern Europe. They are alpha males who believe in a strong national identity. That's why the globalists hate them. Because nothing can get in the way of the free flow of capital, products and people across the world to enrich the few.
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| W12 02 Mar 22 11.29am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Once again, you've got me! Stupid really, for me to have any doubt in Russian state media, the questioning of purely innocent 'military drills' etc. and of course to assume the numerous media reports and images of civilian casualties, a proportion of which are children, was anything but lies. I feel quite the fool now! The only civilians I've seen hurt were at the hands of Ukranians. Oh and shove your f***ing s***ty feminised attitude up your ass.
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