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  Hrolf The Ganger  22 May 21 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I didn't attach a classification to anyone. I said that the Tories not abolishing or defunding the BBC has nothing to do with how conservative they are. Because it doesn't. In response, I was accused of being "woke". Since when was a point of view 'anyone'. The obvious point is that the BBC does not stand for conservatism and therefore might be at risk from a traditional Conservative government. The fact that they have not been reined in as yet suggests that the current lot are not as conservative as they might be. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 May 2021 3.00pm)
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 22 May 21 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
While the press were quite awful in their treatment with Diana it must also be said that she made quite bad decisions herself that as a public figure will always be open to criticism and ultimately led her down unwise paths. Also it can be noted that she was quite happy using the media when it suited her. The same can be said for Harry. When it comes to the BBC, the big difference is that they are funded by enforced public subscription....which is deliberately and unfairly made difficult to get out of. Whereas if you don't like some rag paper you can quite easily not buy it. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 May 2021 3.14pm) The BBC is an institution but in recent history has attracted very low calibre leadership ... i.e. just in it for their pensions, gongs and seats in the House of Lords. I feel sorry for the way Diana was cast aside by her husband but so many years have since passed and there are important issues currently more news worthy. Yawn yawn Prince Hairy who is lapping up the media opportunity this presents him with.
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| Stirlingsays 22 May 21 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
The BBC is an institution but in recent history has attracted very low calibre leadership ... i.e. just in it for their pensions, gongs and seats in the House of Lords. I feel sorry for the way Diana was cast aside by her husband but so many years have since passed and there are important issues currently more news worthy. Yawn yawn Prince Hairy who is lapping up the media opportunity this presents him with. I'd agree that the BBC is an institution, however I don't think it deserves the trust nor protections it has benefited from. Charles married Diana as a Royal breeding machine and that's no different to many marriages before her. You characterise it in modern individualistic terms as her being treated poorly....yet she could have said no but from what I saw she plainly wanted the fame and importance....just like Harry's bimbo....She also had affairs like they were going out of fashion. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2021 4.51pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 22 May 21 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Charles married Diana as a Royal breeding machine ....She also had affairs like they were going out of fashion. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2021 4.51pm) a pretty girl in her day. But no, i wouldn't.
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| W12 22 May 21 5.38pm | |
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The idea that this Diana bulls*** is one of the worse things they have ever done is laughable. Just in the last year alone they have failed to hold a government to account that has destroyed our economy, erased our freedom and created a huge health crisis all in the name of an illness that only kills the very old and very sick. Even before this they were hated by a huge section of the public for good reason.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 22 May 21 5.56pm |
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Originally posted by W12
The idea that this Diana bulls*** is one of the worse things they have ever done is laughable. Just in the last year alone they have failed to hold a government to account that has destroyed our economy, erased our freedom and created a huge health crisis all in the name of an illness that only kills the very old and very sick. Even before this they were hated by a huge section of the public for good reason. I don't think anyone on here as said it was the worst thing however it was yet another scandal in a long line of scandals covered up by the BBC. I don't buy into the BBC is at fault for her death that is a stretch too far and impossible to prove. I prefer to focus on the facts that individuals forged documents and lied and then senior management on learning this ignored the whistleblowers and covered it up. As others have pointed out the public have no recourse, don't like the Sun, don't buy it, its not an option with the beeb hence the anger from some. Meanwhile Auntie tells us trust us we are the organisation that speaks the truth, why should we trust them. Edited by Badger11 (22 May 2021 5.58pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 May 21 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by W12
The idea that this Diana bulls*** is one of the worse things they have ever done is laughable. Just in the last year alone they have failed to hold a government to account that has destroyed our economy, erased our freedom and created a huge health crisis all in the name of an illness that only kills the very old and very sick. Even before this they were hated by a huge section of the public for good reason. Not enough of the public to lose an election any time soon.
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| W12 22 May 21 6.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Not enough of the public to lose an election any time soon. Dumbing down has had a catastrophic effect on all western countries.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 May 21 6.30pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Dumbing down has had a catastrophic effect on all western countries. Of course. I should have guessed. Everyone is dumb except you and your fellow lefty loons.
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cryrst  The garden of England 22 May 21 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by W12
The idea that this Diana bulls*** is one of the worse things they have ever done is laughable. Just in the last year alone they have failed to hold a government to account that has destroyed our economy, erased our freedom and created a huge health crisis all in the name of an illness that only kills the very old and very sick. Even before this they were hated by a huge section of the public for good reason. How can the most popular government in decades do such wrong. I think your view is an opinion that goes against the majority one. The next GE will show if you are right though. Btw The BBC are not very good at holding people to account unless they deserve it or are anti woke. Edited by cryrst (22 May 2021 7.17pm)
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| Mstrobez 22 May 21 7.55pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Since when was a point of view 'anyone'. The obvious point is that the BBC does not stand for conservatism and therefore might be at risk from a traditional Conservative government. The fact that they have not been reined in as yet suggests that the current lot are not as conservative as they might be. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 May 2021 3.00pm) I don't think that was the original point but if it was it would be an utterly moronic one. The BBC is not supposed to stand for conservatism. And as I've explained already, selling off national institutions is literally the opposite of conservatism.
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| Mstrobez 22 May 21 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
As you say I think that would be unfair on a privatised BBC being lumbered with public responsibility. I would put the BBC on the same footing as any other commercial broadcaster and overseen by OFCOM. After that the BBC would be free to build whatever model it felt suited it. I would be fine if they became a TV version of the Guardian if they felt that it made sense. As for the public service aspect of the BBC like the World service I would be fine to continue to subside that from general taxation either as part of the BBC or in a new public service unit if the BBC doesn't want it.
But surely that just makes getting rid of the thing even more pointless. Why fund the service for the rest of the world but not us?
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