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W12 14 Dec 20 4.53pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Sky are reporting a new variant is what’s causing the quicker spread in London and the SE. And people are still buying this bulls***.
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W12 14 Dec 20 4.53pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Sky are reporting a new variant is what’s causing the quicker spread in London and the SE.

And people are still buying this bulls***.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Dec 20 4.54pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC This amused me. Perfectly frames the problem with internet discussion. The irony of someone asking for qualifications to disprove the thing they just posted entirely without qualification is delicious. He might be correct on the dampness and pathogens bit but masks do make it difficult to breathe. The extent of that will be what you’re doing and which mask you’re wearing. If you could breathe the same then the footballers would be wearing something tight over their mouths and noses. Personally if I’m walking quickly I’m breathing heavier through my mouth and it’s far from natural. Most people aren’t because they’re strolling round. Any advice on where to get a multi layered one for when I might need to wear one and longer than a short time. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 14 Dec 20 4.54pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

This amused me.

Perfectly frames the problem with internet discussion. The irony of someone asking for qualifications to disprove the thing they just posted entirely without qualification is delicious.

He might be correct on the dampness and pathogens bit but masks do make it difficult to breathe. The extent of that will be what you’re doing and which mask you’re wearing. If you could breathe the same then the footballers would be wearing something tight over their mouths and noses. Personally if I’m walking quickly I’m breathing heavier through my mouth and it’s far from natural. Most people aren’t because they’re strolling round.

Any advice on where to get a multi layered one for when I might need to wear one and longer than a short time.

COYP

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W12 14 Dec 20 4.56pm
"Health Secretary Matt Hancock says new variant of Covid-19 found in parts of UK Hancock says it's thought the variant is contributing to faster spread in southern England But he says there's no indication it causes worse illness or will not respond to vaccine" But then it will cause a worse illness and then it won't respond to the vaccine and you will need another vaccine. Have people not realised how this works?
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W12 14 Dec 20 4.56pm

"Health Secretary Matt Hancock says new variant of Covid-19 found in parts of UK
Hancock says it's thought the variant is contributing to faster spread in southern England
But he says there's no indication it causes worse illness or will not respond to vaccine"

But then it will cause a worse illness and then it won't respond to the vaccine and you will need another vaccine.

Have people not realised how this works?

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 5.07pm
Originally posted by W12 "Health Secretary Matt Hancock says new variant of Covid-19 found in parts of UK Hancock says it's thought the variant is contributing to faster spread in southern England But he says there's no indication it causes worse illness or will not respond to vaccine" But then it will cause a worse illness and then it won't respond to the vaccine and you will need another vaccine. Have people not realised how this works? Happens every year with the existing flu vaccine. No sure I see the point being made here. Only minor alterations are required to update the flu vaccine, as you already have the 'base' solution. It's not like the whole process has to start from scratch again. Unless I'm missing something, the same practice will apply for the COVID vaccine. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 5.07pm

Originally posted by W12

But then it will cause a worse illness and then it won't respond to the vaccine and you will need another vaccine.

Have people not realised how this works?

Happens every year with the existing flu vaccine. No sure I see the point being made here.

Only minor alterations are required to update the flu vaccine, as you already have the 'base' solution. It's not like the whole process has to start from scratch again.

Unless I'm missing something, the same practice will apply for the COVID vaccine.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Dec 20 5.11pm
I don’t believe anything that b3llend has been saying today. There are several reasons for more positives at the moment before inventing and serving more fear dinner. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 14 Dec 20 5.11pm

I don’t believe anything that b3llend has been saying today. There are several reasons for more positives at the moment before inventing and serving more fear dinner.

COYP

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W12 14 Dec 20 5.11pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Happens every year with the existing flu vaccine. No sure I see the point being made here. Only minor alterations are required to update the flu vaccine, as you already have the 'base' solution. It's not like the whole process has to start from scratch again. Unless I'm missing something, the same practice will apply for the COVID vaccine. Are we locked up during flu season? Are we coerced into testing or taking a vaccine or being "tracked" by the government?
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W12 14 Dec 20 5.11pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Happens every year with the existing flu vaccine. No sure I see the point being made here.

Only minor alterations are required to update the flu vaccine, as you already have the 'base' solution. It's not like the whole process has to start from scratch again.

Unless I'm missing something, the same practice will apply for the COVID vaccine.

Are we locked up during flu season? Are we coerced into testing or taking a vaccine or being "tracked" by the government?

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 5.20pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman He might be correct on the dampness and pathogens bit but masks do make it difficult to breathe. The extent of that will be what you’re doing and which mask you’re wearing. If you could breathe the same then the footballers would be wearing something tight over their mouths and noses. Personally if I’m walking quickly I’m breathing heavier through my mouth and it’s far from natural. Most people aren’t because they’re strolling round. Any advice on where to get a multi layered one for when I might need to wear one and longer than a short time. I think there is a difference between 'difficult', which implies suffocation, and 'more effort'. As before, it also depends on the mask. Medical grade are supposed to be harder to use, it's the trade off between comfort and absolute protection. I've been using a 'U Mask' model two for the last few months (F1 use them across the paddock) – two piece, and five layer, with a thin swimsuit style outer and a replaceable antibacterial inner filter that is allegedly good for 150-200 hours. I wear it about 1 hour a day on average, so for me, the filter is good for 2-3 months. At the start of this I tried quite a few different options, this one is by far the most comfortable of the lot and crucially offers some level of antibacterial element. But, would I wear it 24/7? No. Not unless I had to. They're not cheap though, and you still need to wash the outer lycra layer regularly, but I'd rather wear something that offers some sort of protective barrier for myself and others than a piece of cloth. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 5.20pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Any advice on where to get a multi layered one for when I might need to wear one and longer than a short time.

I think there is a difference between 'difficult', which implies suffocation, and 'more effort'. As before, it also depends on the mask. Medical grade are supposed to be harder to use, it's the trade off between comfort and absolute protection.

I've been using a 'U Mask' model two for the last few months (F1 use them across the paddock) – two piece, and five layer, with a thin swimsuit style outer and a replaceable antibacterial inner filter that is allegedly good for 150-200 hours. I wear it about 1 hour a day on average, so for me, the filter is good for 2-3 months.

At the start of this I tried quite a few different options, this one is by far the most comfortable of the lot and crucially offers some level of antibacterial element. But, would I wear it 24/7? No. Not unless I had to.

They're not cheap though, and you still need to wash the outer lycra layer regularly, but I'd rather wear something that offers some sort of protective barrier for myself and others than a piece of cloth.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 5.22pm
Originally posted by W12 Are we locked up during flu season? Are we coerced into testing or taking a vaccine or being "tracked" by the government? Is this the same as the 'normal' flu? Your comment implied that yearly or successive vaccines are somehow abnormal. Also, we have a vaccine for 'normal' flu. So what you're saying makes no sense. If we had no flu vaccine at all then yes, we would be. Do you not understand how this all works? Edited by SW19 CPFC (14 Dec 2020 5.23pm) Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 5.22pm

Originally posted by W12

Are we locked up during flu season? Are we coerced into testing or taking a vaccine or being "tracked" by the government?

Is this the same as the 'normal' flu?

Your comment implied that yearly or successive vaccines are somehow abnormal.

Also, we have a vaccine for 'normal' flu. So what you're saying makes no sense. If we had no flu vaccine at all then yes, we would be.

Do you not understand how this all works?

Edited by SW19 CPFC (14 Dec 2020 5.23pm)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Spiderman Horsham 14 Dec 20 5.40pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC This amused me. Perfectly frames the problem with internet discussion. The irony of someone asking for qualifications to disprove the thing they just posted entirely without qualification is delicious. Very good. Sounds like certain posters on here who know everything about everything
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Horsham 14 Dec 20 5.40pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

This amused me.

Perfectly frames the problem with internet discussion. The irony of someone asking for qualifications to disprove the thing they just posted entirely without qualification is delicious.

Very good. Sounds like certain posters on here who know everything about everything

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thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 14 Dec 20 5.57pm
this new variant only affects people in london, once you go from selsdon to caterham its ability diminishes Sometimes I set out for Ludlow Sometimes I end up in Chepstow
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crawley/selsey 14 Dec 20 5.57pm

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this new variant only affects people in london, once you go from selsdon to caterham its ability diminishes

Sometimes I set out for Ludlow
Sometimes I end up in Chepstow

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 6.31pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Very good. Sounds like certain posters on here who know everything about everything To be fair, in this instance, he knows everything about a very specific something. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 6.31pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Very good. Sounds like certain posters on here who know everything about everything

To be fair, in this instance, he knows everything about a very specific something.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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BlueJay UK 14 Dec 20 6.38pm
There are several new variants, many of which are likely weaker even if they do spread faster. There's no reason to believe that the vaccine wouldn't help against it. Don't panic, the government is already good at doing that for us.
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UK 14 Dec 20 6.38pm

There are several new variants, many of which are likely weaker even if they do spread faster. There's no reason to believe that the vaccine wouldn't help against it. Don't panic, the government is already good at doing that for us.

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