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 NEILLO  Shoreham-by-Sea 24 Jun 19 8.25am |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Sadly,,we are only finding a diamond about once every five years. If you look at some of the statistics around Academies, then that is not unusual. Extreme example, but Huddersfield Town scrapped their Academy a couple of years ago because only one player in the previous eighteen years had graduated into the first team. Palace are rightly seeking to improve in order to get Category 1 status. There is a pool of talent around South London and we should be their Academy of choice.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Jun 19 8.56am |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
If you look at some of the statistics around Academies, then that is not unusual. Extreme example, but Huddersfield Town scrapped their Academy a couple of years ago because only one player in the previous eighteen years had graduated into the first team. Palace are rightly seeking to improve in order to get Category 1 status. There is a pool of talent around South London and we should be their Academy of choice. Correct. I read we've got the largest catchment area (in terms of population) in Europe. Should be turning up more players, surely?
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 24 Jun 19 9.07am |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Correct. I read we've got the largest catchment area (in terms of population) in Europe. Should be turning up more players, surely? Getting players into the first team is a huge challenge. You look at some of the players that were thought to look promising at youth level but couldn't cut it in the first team or out on loan - Kai Kai being an example. Rave reviews at development level but my mate that coached him at Brentford didn't rate him at all. It's a real churning process but we have seen the value of what can happen when one makes it through as AWB and Wilf have.
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| JohnB 24 Jun 19 9.16am |
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Whilst Chelsea tend to just go about ruining youngsters careers, this shows the power of a good academy/recruiting young players early. [Tweet Link] charset="utf-8"></script>
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Jun 19 9.23am |
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De Bruyne and Salah. Ha ha ha. Even Lukaku.
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| JohnB 24 Jun 19 9.44am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
De Bruyne and Salah. Ha ha ha. Even Lukaku. I personally wouldn't have included them, but De Bruyne still signed for £6.7m and then went for £18m and played a handful of games. A huge mistake on their part but you can't deny the amount of money they make from just getting young players in, loaning them out then selling them on for profit.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Jun 19 9.47am |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Getting players into the first team is a huge challenge. You look at some of the players that were thought to look promising at youth level but couldn't cut it in the first team or out on loan - Kai Kai being an example. Rave reviews at development level but my mate that coached him at Brentford didn't rate him at all. It's a real churning process but we have seen the value of what can happen when one makes it through as AWB and Wilf have. Yeah, odd one. They all can't be wrong either. In the case of Kaikai and a couple of others they played under multiple managers at Palace and on loan and weren't rated.
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| Painter Croydon 24 Jun 19 11.32am |
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Originally posted by JohnB
Whilst Chelsea tend to just go about ruining youngsters careers, this shows the power of a good academy/recruiting young players early. [Tweet Link] charset="utf-8"></script>
How many of those lads were from the local area? It sort of kills the arguments about having a big catchment area. The Abramovich millions plundering European Academies seems more likely, I can’t see us going down that path. The notion that we should be producing more local lads in the Academy is fanciful, the chance of producing a top quality player is low. We have a better record at producing players than most with AWB and Zaha, but they don’t come along every year.
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| Spiderman Horsham 24 Jun 19 12.45pm |
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Apparently we are insisting on £55 million up front and the Zaha sell-on clause cancelled. If this is agreed hope that doesn't mean Zaha will go as well.
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 24 Jun 19 12.58pm |
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It would be nice to think that when and if AWB goes we are told what happened and the "Undisclosed" card wont be played. Parish has stated that both AWB and Wilf wont be sold at the same window, so I'm sure he wont go back on that
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jeeagles  24 Jun 19 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
How many of those lads were from the local area? It sort of kills the arguments about having a big catchment area. The Abramovich millions plundering European Academies seems more likely, I can’t see us going down that path. The notion that we should be producing more local lads in the Academy is fanciful, the chance of producing a top quality player is low. We have a better record at producing players than most with AWB and Zaha, but they don’t come along every year. Chances are the rules will change in a few years to stop teams from doing this. The football authorities are already closing down on clubs for this.
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| gambler Kent 24 Jun 19 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Apparently we are insisting on £55 million up front and the Zaha sell-on clause cancelled. If this is agreed hope that doesn't mean Zaha will go as well. Yes hopefully it's just a very good opportunity to get that clause binned, and doesn't affect Zaha's immediate future.
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