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leifandersonshair Newport 10 May 16 12.30pm | |
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Cameron is only going to get more and more desperate as the vote approaches. He knows his position as leader will be untenable if the public vote Leave, and there will be a political scrum as leading Tories try to position themselves as successor. Cameron gambled- by pushing hard for the Remain camp, he knew a Remain vote would have sunk Boris and IDS (politically), but the Remain vote looked a lot safer months ago when first announced... I'm actually in the Remain camp, but neither camp has really done a great job getting it's message across. Looking forward to the political mayhem that will result whatever the outcome!
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jamiemartin721 Reading 10 May 16 12.46pm | |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Cameron is only going to get more and more desperate as the vote approaches. He knows his position as leader will be untenable if the public vote Leave, and there will be a political scrum as leading Tories try to position themselves as successor. Cameron gambled- by pushing hard for the Remain camp, he knew a Remain vote would have sunk Boris and IDS (politically), but the Remain vote looked a lot safer months ago when first announced... I'm actually in the Remain camp, but neither camp has really done a great job getting it's message across. Looking forward to the political mayhem that will result whatever the outcome! I think Cameron can probably weather an exit, provided its close. The larger the margin the more untenable his position may be, especially to ambitious pro-exit candidates. Usually in referendums, the 'change' campaign prospers early on, but closer to the date the 'bravado' starts to waiver and people start to change their minds. People start to think more about consequences and risk, as they get closer to having to make a decision. Whilst its a more distant thing, they tend to be more idealistic than pragmatic. Out!
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JohnyBoy 10 May 16 1.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Hahaha... very amusing Johnny.... I like it mate.
I've portrayed an image on here that you have captured exactly.... bravo sir! X Perhaps when this blo@dy war is over Hoof and the borders are reopened in say 40 years time we could meet at one of those memorial arches, remembering fallen comrades and wondering at the futility of it all...
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johnfirewall 10 May 16 2.18pm | |
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Forgot about the EU ruling Workfare illegal. This may be amusing to the left who rigidly stand up for the poor even where poverty is self inflicted but why take from those people to give to Europe and the rest of the Union's poor? Edited by johnfirewall (10 May 2016 2.18pm)
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Stuk Top half 10 May 16 2.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The name's Hunt Kermy.. not C U Next Tuesday. Cameron is playing a game. When the EU demanded a further £1.8M a couple of years ago he was as Eurosceptic as it was possible to be... probably on a par with Corbyn. Now the two are lining up fully behind the Remain campaign because it suits their political agenda, not because they believe in it. You bigging up Cameron is just the same thing Kermy. Outside of this referendum debate you wouldn't have a good word to say about him or Osborne would you? As somebody else said on here recently - it's the "muppets" that will decide it and right now the message that immigration is choking our country to death is resonating with those who are most affected by it. Talk of the economy being stronger doesn't cut it. Billion wasn't it?
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 10 May 16 3.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I am firmly in the "Brexit" camp and my position is entrenched. Whatever gave that impression I'm sure I don't know. OUT OUT OUT !
"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'" |
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JohnyBoy 10 May 16 4.46pm | |
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You definitely sound like you are wavering to me Danny, c'mon over, you will be much more prosperous, liberated and safe....plus there are lots of good lads over here: kermit, bigpalacefan and lankygit to name but a few
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JohnyBoy 10 May 16 6.03pm | |
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Originally posted by JohnyBoy
You definitely sound like you are wavering to me Danny, c'mon over, you will be much more prosperous, liberated and safe....plus there are lots of good lads over here: kermit, bigpalacefan and lankygit to name but a few And i forgot to mention you will be £4300 a year better off Danny, thats nearly 1500 pints of wetherspoons beer, surely thats enough to tip you over...
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JohnyBoy 10 May 16 6.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Absolutely not, old fruit. Furthermore, I'm all for reclaiming the Empire, too. To quote the great Winston: Thank you for your honesty on this one Cucking, it is quite refreshing compared to the denials over the threat to the economy, financial markets, security, household prosperity and trade. You do not need to understand rational expectations theory to form the view that all would be significantly worse off (although admitedly we dont know exactly by how much) in thd event if brexit.
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johnfirewall 10 May 16 7.26pm | |
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How are the French allowed to go above their own parliament and Europe when we're at the sharp end of things like this?
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legaleagle 11 May 16 9.33am | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Absolutely not, old fruit. Furthermore, I'm all for reclaiming the Empire, too. To quote the great Winston: You have surpassed yourself here Cucking! Will you commence the reclamation of Empire by leading a one person re-invasion of Mesopotamia (Iraq) to reactivate the mandate,start a new opium War in China to get back the "treaty port" of Shanghai ,or perhaps hide in a container of tea headed for Boston to sort those damn uppity Yankees out?
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legaleagle 11 May 16 9.37am | |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
How are the French allowed to go above their own parliament and Europe when we're at the sharp end of things like this? Umm...The same way we have changed our labour laws (at times controversially) a number of times over the years since joining the EU,and the same way our governments have "got round" the hassle of parliamentary democracy to introduce laws regularly over the years by using the Royal Prerogative...
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