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europalace Europe 23 Sep 17 8.40pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 So being in the EU is like being subject to some sort of gangster protection racket? Edited by hedgehog50 (23 Sep 2017 5.56pm) Certainly not, that's just you trying to use dramatic words for something quite simple and undramatic. The UK is negotiating with 27 other sovereign countries, it will always be disadvantaged by that as would any other country. It's a choice just over half those who voted in June last year have chosen. It's a choice of a disadvantaged and weaker economy compared to staying in the largest trading block in the world that has one of the biggest trading deals with the rest of the world. Edited by europalace (23 Sep 2017 8.42pm)
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Europe 23 Sep 17 8.40pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

So being in the EU is like being subject to some sort of gangster protection racket?

Edited by hedgehog50 (23 Sep 2017 5.56pm)

Certainly not, that's just you trying to use dramatic words for something quite simple and undramatic. The UK is negotiating with 27 other sovereign countries, it will always be disadvantaged by that as would any other country. It's a choice just over half those who voted in June last year have chosen. It's a choice of a disadvantaged and weaker economy compared to staying in the largest trading block in the world that has one of the biggest trading deals with the rest of the world.

Edited by europalace (23 Sep 2017 8.42pm)

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legaleagle 23 Sep 17 8.42pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 This is true, but it doesn't stop them and those inspired by them to take advantage of the gullible and naive facilitators of multi-culturalism - like elderly foster home providers who provide havens for bomb makers. Oh dear
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23 Sep 17 8.42pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

This is true, but it doesn't stop them and those inspired by them to take advantage of the gullible and naive facilitators of multi-culturalism - like elderly foster home providers who provide havens for bomb makers.

Oh dear

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Stirlingsays 23 Sep 17 8.42pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Colin Firth now has Italian citizenship. Strange how he hadn't felt the need in the previous 19 years of being married to an Italian. Make of it what you will. Pretty much nothing then. I don't agree with allowing dual citizenship personally....He could always become full Italian personally and feck off there. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Sep 17 8.42pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Colin Firth now has Italian citizenship. Strange how he hadn't felt the need in the previous 19 years of being married to an Italian. Make of it what you will.

Pretty much nothing then.

I don't agree with allowing dual citizenship personally....He could always become full Italian personally and feck off there.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Sep 17 8.42pm
It is all a bit car crash watching the Tories strength and stability see us through these turbulent times.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Sep 17 8.42pm

It is all a bit car crash watching the Tories strength and stability see us through these turbulent times.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Sep 17 8.46pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Oh dear Oh dear indeed. What sort of checks are made before these supposed refugees are farmed out to the kindly and gullible? Mind you, what checks are made before they are let into the country in the first place? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Sep 17 8.46pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Oh dear

Oh dear indeed. What sort of checks are made before these supposed refugees are farmed out to the kindly and gullible? Mind you, what checks are made before they are let into the country in the first place?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 23 Sep 17 8.46pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Surely all you EU patriots must think staying in for two years is a wonderful thing? Why are you critics of it? You keep telling us that being in the EU is an unmitigated blessing and that all wealth and well being flows from being part of this marvellous organisation. So how come you are not saying what a wise and statesman like move this is? Edited by hedgehog50 (23 Sep 2017 2.22pm) No get it right Hedge....You see they are the real patriots. By putting the EU first and always criticising the British position they are the real patriots. You see it's the EU who hold all the right answers for the British people.....not a majority vote by the British people....but it's the EU commission you see. Get it right Hedge! Next you'll be saying that the EU was wrong for Greece! 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Sep 17 8.46pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Surely all you EU patriots must think staying in for two years is a wonderful thing? Why are you critics of it? You keep telling us that being in the EU is an unmitigated blessing and that all wealth and well being flows from being part of this marvellous organisation. So how come you are not saying what a wise and statesman like move this is?

Edited by hedgehog50 (23 Sep 2017 2.22pm)

No get it right Hedge....You see they are the real patriots. By putting the EU first and always criticising the British position they are the real patriots.

You see it's the EU who hold all the right answers for the British people.....not a majority vote by the British people....but it's the EU commission you see.

Get it right Hedge!

Next you'll be saying that the EU was wrong for Greece!

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Sep 17 8.48pm
Originally posted by europalace Certainly not, that's just you trying to use dramatic words for something quite simple and undramatic. The UK is negotiating with 27 other sovereign countries, it will always be disadvantaged by that as would any other country. It's a choice just over half those who voted in June last year have chosen. It's a choice of a disadvantaged and weaker economy compared to staying in the largest trading block in the world that has one of the biggest trading deals with the rest of the world. Edited by europalace (23 Sep 2017 8.42pm) We should not stay in for a further two years. We should leave with no deal if necessary. Boris Johnson no doubt thinks the same. May is heading for the chop if she pursues this course. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Sep 17 8.48pm

Originally posted by europalace

Edited by europalace (23 Sep 2017 8.42pm)

We should not stay in for a further two years. We should leave with no deal if necessary. Boris Johnson no doubt thinks the same. May is heading for the chop if she pursues this course.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Sep 17 8.50pm
Originally posted by nickgusset It is all a bit car crash watching the Tories strength and stability see us through these turbulent times. Tory Scum! Tories Out! When do we want it?! Now! - internationale rings out... We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Sep 17 8.50pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

It is all a bit car crash watching the Tories strength and stability see us through these turbulent times.

Tory Scum! Tories Out! When do we want it?! Now! - internationale rings out...

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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steeleye20 Croydon 23 Sep 17 11.29pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays No get it right Hedge....You see they are the real patriots. By putting the EU first and always criticising the British position they are the real patriots. You see it's the EU who hold all the right answers for the British people.....not a majority vote by the British people....but it's the EU commission you see. Get it right Hedge! Next you'll be saying that the EU was wrong for Greece! 'criticising the British position'. There is no 'British position' to criticise. The EU cannot decipher the 'British position' and who could. The euro vote of 51/49 just shows a divided country. Failing to realise this and the recent election result is just inflicting pain on the UK. It is a Frenchman Mr.Barnier who is deciding the UK's future not the UK itself. He is keeping control well but hey anything can happen. Still got 20 billions and plenty more to come and like other EU leaders did not bother to go to Florence at all. Not a bad result for the EU. But they are genuine in not wanting us to leave.
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Croydon 23 Sep 17 11.29pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No get it right Hedge....You see they are the real patriots. By putting the EU first and always criticising the British position they are the real patriots.

You see it's the EU who hold all the right answers for the British people.....not a majority vote by the British people....but it's the EU commission you see.

Get it right Hedge!

Next you'll be saying that the EU was wrong for Greece!

'criticising the British position'.

There is no 'British position' to criticise.

The EU cannot decipher the 'British position' and who could.

The euro vote of 51/49 just shows a divided country.

Failing to realise this and the recent election result is just inflicting pain on the UK.

It is a Frenchman Mr.Barnier who is deciding the UK's future not the UK itself.

He is keeping control well but hey anything can happen.

Still got 20 billions and plenty more to come and like other EU leaders did not bother to go to Florence at all.

Not a bad result for the EU.

But they are genuine in not wanting us to leave.

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Kermit8 Hevon 23 Sep 17 11.37pm
This is more to do with xenophobia than sovereignty IF all sides were being honest. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 23 Sep 17 11.37pm

This is more to do with xenophobia than sovereignty IF all sides were being honest.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Stirlingsays 23 Sep 17 11.54pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 This is more to do with xenophobia than sovereignty IF all sides were being honest. Was that why you supported Scottish independence then? Xenophobia would be banning immigration and no one is suggesting that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Sep 17 11.54pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

This is more to do with xenophobia than sovereignty IF all sides were being honest.

Was that why you supported Scottish independence then?

Xenophobia would be banning immigration and no one is suggesting that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Sep 17 12.48am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Tory Scum! Tories Out! When do we want it?! Now! - internationale rings out... Calm down. You'll get a hernia. Twas merely a fairly accurate observation. Only the myopic wouldn't see what disarray the Tories are in. Europe has always been their downfall. You never know, we might end up with a labour Brexit. That'd cheer me up a bit. Edited by nickgusset (24 Sep 2017 12.50am)
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Shizzlehurst 24 Sep 17 12.48am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Tory Scum! Tories Out! When do we want it?! Now! - internationale rings out...

Calm down. You'll get a hernia.

Twas merely a fairly accurate observation. Only the myopic wouldn't see what disarray the Tories are in. Europe has always been their downfall.
You never know, we might end up with a labour Brexit. That'd cheer me up a bit.

Edited by nickgusset (24 Sep 2017 12.50am)

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