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 Eaglecoops  CR3 04 Dec 20 9.23pm |
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I’ve go no idea of how safe the vaccine is. Why? Because despite the BBC peddling the great news of it being rolled out there has been absolutely zero information provided on the safety of it or otherwise. I would have thought this information should be freely available and available now so people can make an informed decision.
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| DanH SW2 04 Dec 20 9.33pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You’re taking it to protect others, only you may not be, because you might still transmit Covid after the vaccine is supposed to work. But the nhs, yes, the nhs, you’re taking it to protect them, keep yourself out of hospital so they can treat others. Sex and children. Who needs ‘em anyway? You’re being really weird with this. The vaccine protects the individual first and foremost. The body becomes able to fight off the virus and prevent symptoms. That individual will then no longer, get sick, need hospital treatment or die. It’s understandable to have reservations but the entire world has been throwing their time, money and resources at trying to find this vaccine. Of course it feels quick, it’s had the attention of the world to solve it as soon as possible. It’s unprecedented in our lifetimes. It will literally give you the herd immunity you’ve been craving since the outset without pretty much the entire country getting it and tens of thousands more people dying. It will give you back all your freedoms you and everyone else want. You should be ecstatic we’re at this point. Edited by DanH (04 Dec 2020 9.34pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Dec 20 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
So if the impact on fertility is unknown, if you're planning on having children one day, it would be unwise to agree to take this vaccine. But common sense seems sparse these days. How can a vaccine get through the safety regulations if the impact on fertility is unknown? There are many things that are unknown. I don't know that a meteor won't fall in my house tonight. Just that it's so unlikely as to be disregarded. I suspect this falls into the same category. People understand the impact of vaccines pretty well now.They know the biological pathways and what the consequences of doing things are likely to be. Science understands. I trust it. You should try it. Life is much more comfortable and predictable that way.
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BlueJay  UK 04 Dec 20 9.41pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I’ve go no idea of how safe the vaccine is. Why? Because despite the BBC peddling the great news of it being rolled out there has been absolutely zero information provided on the safety of it or otherwise. I would have thought this information should be freely available and available now so people can make an informed decision. Probably why they are starting with the elderly and appear to have no rollout plan for those below say 50. It's a catch 22, the safety studies didn't highlight anything overly troubling. They could spend another 18 months double checking to the nth degree, but by that point how many more people will have died of something they otherwise wouldn't have? If you're 80+ you'd be a fool not to have this vaccine. I take it you'll be suggesting to your pops that he has it, and that he wishes too also. If the answer to either of those questions is 'no' then you have far more problems in your near future than moaning about me having an opinion. Family and basic common sense should come before whatever a person's 'covid politics' is.
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| Lombardinho London 04 Dec 20 10.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are many things that are unknown. I don't know that a meteor won't fall in my house tonight. Just that it's so unlikely as to be disregarded. I suspect this falls into the same category. People understand the impact of vaccines pretty well now.They know the biological pathways and what the consequences of doing things are likely to be. Science understands. I trust it. You should try it. Life is much more comfortable and predictable that way. So you're promoting blind faith? I can't help but think people will need something a little more convincing than just that.
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| Mapletree Croydon 04 Dec 20 10.55pm |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
So if the impact on fertility is unknown, if you're planning on having children one day, it would be unwise to agree to take this vaccine. But common sense seems sparse these days. How can a vaccine get through the safety regulations if the impact on fertility is unknown? The effect of catching the virus on fertility is at least partially known. It is bad for fertility. I recommend you don’t take the vaccine, where the effect is unknown. Catch the virus instead and be sure your fertility is likely to be impaired.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Dec 20 11.09pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
You’re being really weird with this. The vaccine protects the individual first and foremost. The body becomes able to fight off the virus and prevent symptoms. That individual will then no longer, get sick, need hospital treatment or die. It’s understandable to have reservations but the entire world has been throwing their time, money and resources at trying to find this vaccine. Of course it feels quick, it’s had the attention of the world to solve it as soon as possible. It’s unprecedented in our lifetimes. It will literally give you the herd immunity you’ve been craving since the outset without pretty much the entire country getting it and tens of thousands more people dying. It will give you back all your freedoms you and everyone else want. You should be ecstatic we’re at this point. Edited by DanH (04 Dec 2020 9.34pm) You really are as stupid and naive as charged. First you try and claim I’m the stupid one for questioning whether they know vaccinated people won’t transmit the virus and within hours and definitely the next day it’s confirmed they don’t know. So who’s the stupid one? You for accepting anything you’re told, or the people who question it, even the things you expect and assume aren’t an issue, but turn out they are. Lucky types like us are around to save you from being manipulated like the weak souls you are. You assume it’s safe because the people who’ve lied about what I’ve just said and spun it in a press conference as being the miracle answer said so. I would accuse you of being self interested because by the time the vaccine reaches you on the list you probably won’t need to have it, but you’re too stupid and petrified to even think that logically. Being brainwashed is just your normal.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Dec 20 11.11pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are many things that are unknown. I don't know that a meteor won't fall in my house tonight. Just that it's so unlikely as to be disregarded. I suspect this falls into the same category. People understand the impact of vaccines pretty well now.They know the biological pathways and what the consequences of doing things are likely to be. Science understands. I trust it. You should try it. Life is much more comfortable and predictable that way. Grandad lecturing on concerns of fertility when government documents say they have no idea. Unsurprisingly.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Dec 20 11.12pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Probably why they are starting with the elderly and appear to have no rollout plan for those below say 50. It's a catch 22, the safety studies didn't highlight anything overly troubling. They could spend another 18 months double checking to the nth degree, but by that point how many more people will have died of something they otherwise wouldn't have? If you're 80+ you'd be a fool not to have this vaccine. I take it you'll be suggesting to your pops that he has it, and that he wishes too also. If the answer to either of those questions is 'no' then you have far more problems in your near future than moaning about me having an opinion. Family and basic common sense should come before whatever a person's 'covid politics' is.
Agree. Those at risk the odds I taking it are worth it.
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| DanH SW2 04 Dec 20 11.40pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You really are as stupid and naive as charged. First you try and claim I’m the stupid one for questioning whether they know vaccinated people won’t transmit the virus and within hours and definitely the next day it’s confirmed they don’t know. So who’s the stupid one? You for accepting anything you’re told, or the people who question it, even the things you expect and assume aren’t an issue, but turn out they are. Lucky types like us are around to save you from being manipulated like the weak souls you are. You assume it’s safe because the people who’ve lied about what I’ve just said and spun it in a press conference as being the miracle answer said so. I would accuse you of being self interested because by the time the vaccine reaches you on the list you probably won’t need to have it, but you’re too stupid and petrified to even think that logically. Being brainwashed is just your normal. This place is exhausting these days. Like a weird cult.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Dec 20 11.50pm |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
So you're promoting blind faith? I can't help but think people will need something a little more convincing than just that. Blind faith is when nothing at all is known and you trust to luck. With this a great deal is known about vaccines in general and also that this one will protect you from C19 and help to gradually bring it under control. Dying has a pretty drastic impact on fertility. If we all waited and did nothing, as some here seem to advocate, we would be in even a bigger mess as the USA isheaded for right now.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Dec 20 11.52pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
This place is exhausting these days. Like a weird cult. You have to wonder if they are all paedophiles cutting up babies in pizza houses? Or has that already been done by someone else?
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