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BlueJay Flag UK 04 Dec 20 1.54pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

For the last time, I was relating his thoughts not mine, he doesn’t frequent pubs and the reference to being bombed was an analogy of the chance of something happening, But don’t let any of that get in the way of you preaching to me what’s best for him and what my ideas are as you seem to already have your mind made up. It’s like having a one way conversation with a government official.

I haven't said what's best for anyone, other than to say that clearly at this very point in time, being alive and well is much better than him being on a slab through behaviour that could've done him in. Moan though he may, from the possible outcomes he was fortunate enough to stumble into one of the better ones. Luckier than 60,000 others anyway.


Edited by BlueJay (04 Dec 2020 2.05pm)

 
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BlueJay Flag UK 04 Dec 20 2.12pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Last week I warned of a spike in the Bromley area. This today from the Daily Mail courtesy of public Health England
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I sent this to a mate in Lewisham as a warning too late him and his brother got the virus a couple of days ago.

Edited by Badger11 (04 Dec 2020 1.33pm)

That sucks. It definitely makes sense to have a keen awareness of the situation in different areas as it can vary a lot.

 
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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Dec 20 2.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

That sucks. It definitely makes sense to have a keen awareness of the situation in different areas as it can vary a lot.

He's very careful so not sure how he got it at the moment he is blaming his brother but the truth is they don't know.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Dec 20 4.14pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

He's very careful so not sure how he got it at the moment he is blaming his brother but the truth is they don't know.

These untested face coverings only provide minor protection so unless you’re social distancing at all times I don’t think you can say you’re protected wherever you are. Unfortunately there’s the spread of germs by some masks. The one thing you can do is never touch the holes in your face or food out of the house when your hands haven’t just been washed. This is why employees will never be able to sue employers.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (04 Dec 2020 4.33pm)

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Dec 20 4.47pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

For the last time, I was relating his thoughts not mine, he doesn’t frequent pubs and the reference to being bombed was an analogy of the chance of something happening, But don’t let any of that get in the way of you preaching to me what’s best for him and what my ideas are as you seem to already have your mind made up. It’s like having a one way conversation with a government official.

Border Force Officers been working through, dealing with who knows what and their reward is no pay rise at all, so basically a pay cut. Wife has to work Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Years Day. Happy Christmas!
Not having a go at NHS staff getting a rise, fully. deserved but other public sector workers have worked through... teachers, Police, Prison Officers and BF

 
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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Dec 20 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

"It is unknown whether COVID 19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 will have an impact on fertility"

From the governments own website. Published December 2nd

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Dec 20 5.21pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They should be giving the nurses a pay rise and a Christmas bonus. F@ck the 'Health Chiefs' though.

Who pays for that then?
I know all health do a brilliant job and my family has had some excellent care but to keep throwing money at the state just means that the private and the menial state pay for it in the end. By that I mean a tax rise which is coming affects all at lower and mid level. I thought the hypocratoc oath meant something other than money. What about all the teachers getting the same rise and bonus. Lots of those have been on the front line without PPE.
Waiting for both barrels now I suppose !

 
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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Dec 20 5.50pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Who pays for that then?
I know all health do a brilliant job and my family has had some excellent care but to keep throwing money at the state just means that the private and the menial state pay for it in the end. By that I mean a tax rise which is coming affects all at lower and mid level. I thought the hypocratoc oath meant something other than money. What about all the teachers getting the same rise and bonus. Lots of those have been on the front line without PPE.
Waiting for both barrels now I suppose !

I can understand what you mean but basically nurses have needed better pay for a while, in my opinion. Not the others. Nurses used to take some kind of oath, doubt it was the Hippocratic Oath but not sure what, or if they still do. They were good in Carry On films.
Teacher's wages in the UK aren't great either, particularly when you start. I just feel the stress of nursing, plus the education and training, needs to be better rewarded. I would like it to become a decent profession for young people to aspire to, rather than one where low paid nurses are imported due to shortages. I would think that would be of long term benefit to the Exchequer, but hey, long term - that just never matters anymore.
Tongue in cheek - we could just borrow a few more billion to pay for it.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Dec 20 7.25pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I can understand what you mean but basically nurses have needed better pay for a while, in my opinion. Not the others. Nurses used to take some kind of oath, doubt it was the Hippocratic Oath but not sure what, or if they still do. They were good in Carry On films.
Teacher's wages in the UK aren't great either, particularly when you start. I just feel the stress of nursing, plus the education and training, needs to be better rewarded. I would like it to become a decent profession for young people to aspire to, rather than one where low paid nurses are imported due to shortages. I would think that would be of long term benefit to the Exchequer, but hey, long term - that just never matters anymore.
Tongue in cheek - we could just borrow a few more billion to pay for it.

Once you get to 2 trillion the middle finger is the answer. The problem is where do you draw the line at worth! If a social worker improves your life they are valuable, if an mp helps your situation they're worth more, it's in the eye of the receiver tbh. Ultimately though the nhs will be your last contact on this planet so your point is probably correct in a strange way.

 
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Lombardinho Flag London 04 Dec 20 8.14pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

"It is unknown whether COVID 19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 will have an impact on fertility"

From the governments own website. Published December 2nd

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So if the impact on fertility is unknown, if you're planning on having children one day, it would be unwise to agree to take this vaccine.

But common sense seems sparse these days.

How can a vaccine get through the safety regulations if the impact on fertility is unknown?

 
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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Dec 20 9.19pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

So if the impact on fertility is unknown, if you're planning on having children one day, it would be unwise to agree to take this vaccine.

But common sense seems sparse these days.

How can a vaccine get through the safety regulations if the impact on fertility is unknown?

You’re taking it to protect others, only you may not be, because you might still transmit Covid after the vaccine is supposed to work. But the nhs, yes, the nhs, you’re taking it to protect them, keep yourself out of hospital so they can treat others.

Sex and children. Who needs ‘em anyway?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Dec 20 9.22pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

So if the impact on fertility is unknown, if you're planning on having children one day, it would be unwise to agree to take this vaccine.

But common sense seems sparse these days.

How can a vaccine get through the safety regulations if the impact on fertility is unknown?

That crap film 'Children of Men' with Clive Owen is now truly prophetic.

 

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