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cryrst The garden of England 03 Dec 20 9.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
And a bomb could have dropped on him during the war but it didn’t. You are so wrapped up in your own idea of what is right and wrong that you cannot see other people’s point of view. He currently sits on his own at home in a tier 3 area and his only contact with anyone is if someone picks up the phone. If the last year of his life is spent deteriorating at home because he is lonely then will you still be arguing he did the right thing by staying in on his own. By his own admission, if he was to die from COVID he would say it was his decision. He’s had a great life so I will never begrudge him a half a pint twice a week at the local golf club whatever the outcome. If you think that is selfish then I would appreciate you keeping that thought to yourself. Why dont his mates pop round and see him?
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 03 Dec 20 10.06pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Why dont his mates pop round and see him? cryrst, I thought you were more intelligent. Did you read that it's a tier 3 area? Or is breaking the law allowed at home but not in the pub?
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Spiderman Horsham 03 Dec 20 10.35pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Top US expert says UK 'not as careful' over vaccine approval........ Well well is he right or a bit of sour grapes. The public take-up will tell us. Personally I feel extremely cautious. Sour grapes! But I’m with you about being cautious Edited by Spiderman (03 Dec 2020 10.39pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Dec 20 10.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Non mask wearing doesn’t happen much round here or the places I go so will be the last to give them up. They’re probably more hygienic too, which I’m more bothered about. I don’t have to wear one much so I put one on knowing I don’t cough or sneeze in it so know it’s pointless. I puff and pant in it while walking fast because I can’t breathe out of my nose the same. You could see the cloth being sucked in and out of my mouth. Utterly pointless and probably more risky for me in my case. On a plane I’d wear a real mask for an allegedly aerosol spreading virus rather than a piece of cloth or paper to stop a cough or sneeze that I’d cover myself safely if it were to happen without a mask actually. So to protect myself and those close to me I’d be pumping out more breath through the valves, but I doubt it matters on a long flight because I’d have to breathe air in and out to survive the flight wearing a piece of cloth or paper. Having said all that I do agree that face coverings have a small use in trapping coughs and sneezes, unless in cases of people coughing through their face cloth onto supermarket shelves. What happens after someone does a full heavy duty sneeze is anyone’s guess. But we’re talking about air circulating on a plane and again, an allegedly aerosol spreading virus. Reminds me of the ludicrous plans to take out the middle seat of 3 etc. Are they still doing this? Doing something for the sake of it? Proper mask, fair enough. Breathing out of and no doubt pulling aside a piece of cloth on a flight lasting hours with air circulating everywhere? And then all the meals come out and everyone takes them off for 30 mins. Mildly amusing.
Do you have a medical condition that precludes you from coughing or sneezing or being able to breath out of your nose? If so you should be able to obtain a dispensation from the obligation to wear a mask. If it is merely a matter of discomfort then join the club. None of us likes it very much. It's not 100% but it catches the heavy loads escaping. Aircraft have filtration systems so taken together with masks and probably testing provide a reasonable level of safety.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Dec 20 11.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you have a medical condition that precludes you from coughing or sneezing or being able to breath out of your nose? If so you should be able to obtain a dispensation from the obligation to wear a mask. If it is merely a matter of discomfort then join the club. None of us likes it very much. It's not 100% but it catches the heavy loads escaping. Aircraft have filtration systems so taken together with masks and probably testing provide a reasonable level of safety. I breathe heavily through my mouth when walking fast. Standing about or sitting is easy. I don’t cough in public these days because I don’t have a cough and if I did I’d stay away. On a plane id wear a tested mask with valves, not a poor excuse for one that’s going to do nothing when on a plane for hours. And then chuckle when the whole plane goes maskless when served meal and drinks. Edited by Rudi Hedman (03 Dec 2020 11.16pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Dec 20 11.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I breathe heavily through my mouth when walking fast. Standing about or sitting is easy. I don’t cough in public these days because I don’t have a cough and if I did I’d stay away. On a plane id wear a tested mask with valves, not a poor excuse for one that’s going to do nothing when on a plane for hours.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Dec 20 12.45am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Wearing a certified mask I’m highly unlikely to catch Covid but of course crust changes when the meals get wheeled out regardless of what I or anyone wears unless I don’t eat for hours.
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cryrst The garden of England 04 Dec 20 2.04am | |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
cryrst, I thought you were more intelligent. Did you read that it's a tier 3 area? Or is breaking the law allowed at home but not in the pub? Well I'm sure they wouldn't be the only ones tbh and if it helps his mental health and gives him a gee up.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 04 Dec 20 2.18am | |
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So a vaccine that would normally take 10 years to develop and get approval, takes only 10 months. And I still regularly gob-off to morons who think a mask is a 'Get out of jail card' to ignore social distancing, and other precautions. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (04 Dec 2020 2.27am)
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cryrst The garden of England 04 Dec 20 6.16am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
So a vaccine that would normally take 10 years to develop and get approval, takes only 10 months. And I still regularly gob-off to morons who think a mask is a 'Get out of jail card' to ignore social distancing, and other precautions. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (04 Dec 2020 2.27am) I thought that this vaccine had many properties of the flue vaccine with a few tweaks. That has had years and is modified every year to suit the type of flue virus for that year.
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cardiff eagle 04 Dec 20 8.00am | |
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My thing with masks is that I’m yet to see a single country who has experienced a sustained drop in infections as a result of using them. You’d have thought that with so much of Europe for example now wearing them and high compliance levels if they were effective youd have seen an impact. But we haven’t so makes me question the point in them.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Dec 20 10.01am | |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
My thing with masks is that I’m yet to see a single country who has experienced a sustained drop in infections as a result of using them. You’d have thought that with so much of Europe for example now wearing them and high compliance levels if they were effective youd have seen an impact. But we haven’t so makes me question the point in them. ‘’If it makes 1% difference or saves one life they’re worth wearing.’’ Remember that? That’s not really sensible anyway. More would be effected or die of the economic effects of everyone wearing masks than 1% or 1 life.
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