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cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 Dec 20 9.10pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

And a bomb could have dropped on him during the war but it didn’t. You are so wrapped up in your own idea of what is right and wrong that you cannot see other people’s point of view. He currently sits on his own at home in a tier 3 area and his only contact with anyone is if someone picks up the phone. If the last year of his life is spent deteriorating at home because he is lonely then will you still be arguing he did the right thing by staying in on his own.

By his own admission, if he was to die from COVID he would say it was his decision. He’s had a great life so I will never begrudge him a half a pint twice a week at the local golf club whatever the outcome. If you think that is selfish then I would appreciate you keeping that thought to yourself.

Why dont his mates pop round and see him?
If he can get to the pub then they can surely get to his drum.

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 03 Dec 20 10.06pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Why dont his mates pop round and see him?
If he can get to the pub then they can surely get to his drum.

cryrst, I thought you were more intelligent.

Did you read that it's a tier 3 area? Or is breaking the law allowed at home but not in the pub?

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Dec 20 10.35pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Top US expert says UK 'not as careful' over vaccine approval........

Well well is he right or a bit of sour grapes.

The public take-up will tell us.

Personally I feel extremely cautious.

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Sour grapes! But I’m with you about being cautious

Edited by Spiderman (03 Dec 2020 10.39pm)

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Dec 20 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Non mask wearing doesn’t happen much round here or the places I go so will be the last to give them up. They’re probably more hygienic too, which I’m more bothered about.

I don’t have to wear one much so I put one on knowing I don’t cough or sneeze in it so know it’s pointless. I puff and pant in it while walking fast because I can’t breathe out of my nose the same. You could see the cloth being sucked in and out of my mouth. Utterly pointless and probably more risky for me in my case.

On a plane I’d wear a real mask for an allegedly aerosol spreading virus rather than a piece of cloth or paper to stop a cough or sneeze that I’d cover myself safely if it were to happen without a mask actually. So to protect myself and those close to me I’d be pumping out more breath through the valves, but I doubt it matters on a long flight because I’d have to breathe air in and out to survive the flight wearing a piece of cloth or paper.

Having said all that I do agree that face coverings have a small use in trapping coughs and sneezes, unless in cases of people coughing through their face cloth onto supermarket shelves. What happens after someone does a full heavy duty sneeze is anyone’s guess. But we’re talking about air circulating on a plane and again, an allegedly aerosol spreading virus. Reminds me of the ludicrous plans to take out the middle seat of 3 etc. Are they still doing this? Doing something for the sake of it? Proper mask, fair enough. Breathing out of and no doubt pulling aside a piece of cloth on a flight lasting hours with air circulating everywhere? And then all the meals come out and everyone takes them off for 30 mins. Mildly amusing.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (03 Dec 2020 3.29pm)

Do you have a medical condition that precludes you from coughing or sneezing or being able to breath out of your nose?

If so you should be able to obtain a dispensation from the obligation to wear a mask.

If it is merely a matter of discomfort then join the club. None of us likes it very much. It's not 100% but it catches the heavy loads escaping. Aircraft have filtration systems so taken together with masks and probably testing provide a reasonable level of safety.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Dec 20 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you have a medical condition that precludes you from coughing or sneezing or being able to breath out of your nose?

If so you should be able to obtain a dispensation from the obligation to wear a mask.

If it is merely a matter of discomfort then join the club. None of us likes it very much. It's not 100% but it catches the heavy loads escaping. Aircraft have filtration systems so taken together with masks and probably testing provide a reasonable level of safety.

I breathe heavily through my mouth when walking fast. Standing about or sitting is easy. I don’t cough in public these days because I don’t have a cough and if I did I’d stay away.

On a plane id wear a tested mask with valves, not a poor excuse for one that’s going to do nothing when on a plane for hours. And then chuckle when the whole plane goes maskless when served meal and drinks.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (03 Dec 2020 11.16pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Dec 20 11.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I breathe heavily through my mouth when walking fast. Standing about or sitting is easy. I don’t cough in public these days because I don’t have a cough and if I did I’d stay away.

On a plane id wear a tested mask with valves, not a poor excuse for one that’s going to do nothing when on a plane for hours.


If, by very bad luck, you did get the virus, you may not be able to control a cough or a sneeze, especially if it developed during the journey. Wearing a heavier mask ought to be OK, although quite an expensive option. You ought to be safe with just a cloth and so would your follow passengers.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Dec 20 12.45am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


If, by very bad luck, you did get the virus, you may not be able to control a cough or a sneeze, especially if it developed during the journey. Wearing a heavier mask ought to be OK, although quite an expensive option. You ought to be safe with just a cloth and so would your follow passengers.

Wearing a certified mask I’m highly unlikely to catch Covid but of course crust changes when the meals get wheeled out regardless of what I or anyone wears unless I don’t eat for hours.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Dec 20 2.04am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

cryrst, I thought you were more intelligent.

Did you read that it's a tier 3 area? Or is breaking the law allowed at home but not in the pub?

Well I'm sure they wouldn't be the only ones tbh and if it helps his mental health and gives him a gee up.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 04 Dec 20 2.18am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

So a vaccine that would normally take 10 years to develop and get approval, takes only 10 months.
Make your own judgement call.

And I still regularly gob-off to morons who think a mask is a 'Get out of jail card' to ignore social distancing, and other precautions.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (04 Dec 2020 2.27am)

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Dec 20 6.16am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

So a vaccine that would normally take 10 years to develop and get approval, takes only 10 months.
Make your own judgement call.

And I still regularly gob-off to morons who think a mask is a 'Get out of jail card' to ignore social distancing, and other precautions.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (04 Dec 2020 2.27am)

I thought that this vaccine had many properties of the flue vaccine with a few tweaks. That has had years and is modified every year to suit the type of flue virus for that year.

 

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cardiff eagle Flag 04 Dec 20 8.00am Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

My thing with masks is that I’m yet to see a single country who has experienced a sustained drop in infections as a result of using them. You’d have thought that with so much of Europe for example now wearing them and high compliance levels if they were effective youd have seen an impact. But we haven’t so makes me question the point in them.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Dec 20 10.01am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

My thing with masks is that I’m yet to see a single country who has experienced a sustained drop in infections as a result of using them. You’d have thought that with so much of Europe for example now wearing them and high compliance levels if they were effective youd have seen an impact. But we haven’t so makes me question the point in them.

‘’If it makes 1% difference or saves one life they’re worth wearing.’’

Remember that? That’s not really sensible anyway. More would be effected or die of the economic effects of everyone wearing masks than 1% or 1 life.

 


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