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  georgenorman  20 Jun 24 3.17pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Very Truss like! End up with hyper inflation and a tsunami of bankruptcies. Great outcome. Nonsense, government spending and their printing of money are the chief causes of inflation. (Of course, if we had your way and were in the EU and using the Euro currency, we would not have the power to set our own interest rates.) Edited by georgenorman (20 Jun 2024 3.19pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Jun 24 3.46pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Nonsense, government spending and their printing of money are the chief causes of inflation. (Of course, if we had your way and were in the EU and using the Euro currency, we would not have the power to set our own interest rates.) Edited by georgenorman (20 Jun 2024 3.19pm) Untrue. It’s a shortage of goods when money is available which creates inflation. Central bank regulation can keep things in balance. Removing it and relying only on the markets would quickly produce imbalance and inflation, or deflation depending on the circumstances. Neither good.
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Teddy Eagle  20 Jun 24 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Untrue. It’s a shortage of goods when money is available which creates inflation. Central bank regulation can keep things in balance. Removing it and relying only on the markets would quickly produce imbalance and inflation, or deflation depending on the circumstances. Neither god. Not the only reason.
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| georgenorman 20 Jun 24 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Untrue. It’s a shortage of goods when money is available which creates inflation. Central bank regulation can keep things in balance. Removing it and relying only on the markets would quickly produce imbalance and inflation, or deflation depending on the circumstances. Neither good. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (20 Jun 2024 4.04pm) You might as well have a fortune-telling pig set the interest rates as the Bank of England for all the good it would do.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Jun 24 5.48pm |
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I spoke on Thatcher earlier and I want to make the point that she had....in my view a contradiction between the social conservative side of her and the neoliberal side. I haven't read her diaries to see if she reflected upon how one harms the other...but I tend to agree with the thoughts given in this link.
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cryrst  The garden of England 20 Jun 24 7.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I would like another next year. This one on whether future referendums can only be held locally on local issues. Any issue affecting the UK as a whole to only be determined in Parliament. That’s like a meeting about a meeting about a meeting. What next a vote on who has the worse local issues
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| cryrst The garden of England 20 Jun 24 7.10pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
But the whole premise of your observation is flawed - you've already concluded that "If they settle for less after the GE then it suggests their striking is as much political as it is about money." We all know they're going to settle for less than 35%, which is clearly the 'opening offer' from the unions. In every wage dispute the settlement is less than the initial demand from the union - you can't just invent your own conclusions about what that means. So let’s say they get 15%. The unions then want the same for nurses, then doctors, then maintenance and the rest. Hmg cannot give more to one, or a lot more to one and not expect everyone to want the same. It’s human nature. The money would take finance away from the front line care which is the highest it’s ever been atm.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Jun 24 7.57pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So let’s say they get 15%. The unions then want the same for nurses, then doctors, then maintenance and the rest. Hmg cannot give more to one, or a lot more to one and not expect everyone to want the same. It’s human nature. The money would take finance away from the front line care which is the highest it’s ever been atm. Yep, when Labour get in, the unions are coming for them. Expect strikes aplenty later and then Starmer capitulating to higher demands than the Tories would have. The most lying is done by omission. Just like the fact that Starmer isn't saying what Labour obviously want to do....which is to take more of your savings and tax assets higher. The magic money tree is you. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2024 8.11pm)
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| stancummins 20 Jun 24 9.00pm |
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Same old rhetoric , just before 1997 election, there was all the guff how once Blair won the left would take over, the unions would have the government in their pockets and Labour would crash the economy, what we got was no left wing takeover, a record low of days lost to industrial action and 50 consecutive quarters of economic growth , i do wish people would take their heads out of their backsides and realise this is not the 1970s those days are long behind us and lets just get rid of this government that is rotten to the core
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glazedallover  Allier 20 Jun 24 9.03pm |
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Originally posted by stancummins
Same old rhetoric , just before 1997 election, there was all the guff how once Blair won the left would take over, the unions would have the government in their pockets and Labour would crash the economy, what we got was no left wing takeover, a record low of days lost to industrial action and 50 consecutive quarters of economic growth , i do wish people would take their heads out of their backsides and realise this is not the 1970s those days are long behind us and lets just get rid of this government that is rotten to the core you're wasting your time stan......
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 20 Jun 24 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by stancummins
Same old rhetoric , just before 1997 election, there was all the guff how once Blair won the left would take over, the unions would have the government in their pockets and Labour would crash the economy, what we got was no left wing takeover, a record low of days lost to industrial action and 50 consecutive quarters of economic growth , i do wish people would take their heads out of their backsides and realise this is not the 1970s those days are long behind us and lets just get rid of this government that is rotten to the core Indeed, can't think of any strikes past two or three years, 70's long gone.....
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| glazedallover Allier 20 Jun 24 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Indeed, can't think of any strikes past two or three years, 70's long gone..... Really ??
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