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Grumbles 12 May 22 4.46pm
Heading for recession, when growth is less than a Covid hit 2021.
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Grumbles 12 May 22 4.46pm

Heading for recession, when growth is less than a Covid hit 2021.

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BlueJay UK 12 May 22 4.53pm
Originally posted by W12 Shutting the entire economy down for two years and pumping limitless funds into the economy would have had nothing to do with it. Did that magically happen then? Or was a government with a majority in place when it did..
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BlueJay

UK 12 May 22 4.53pm

Originally posted by W12

Shutting the entire economy down for two years and pumping limitless funds into the economy would have had nothing to do with it.

Did that magically happen then? Or was a government with a majority in place when it did..

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Teddy Eagle 12 May 22 5.19pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Did that magically happen then? Or was a government with a majority in place when it did.. So Sweden was right all the time.
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Teddy Eagle

12 May 22 5.19pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Did that magically happen then? Or was a government with a majority in place when it did..

So Sweden was right all the time.

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cryrst The garden of England 12 May 22 5.30pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle So Sweden was right all the time. Not with freedom of movement though !
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cryrst

The garden of England 12 May 22 5.30pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So Sweden was right all the time.

Not with freedom of movement though !

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BlueJay UK 12 May 22 5.35pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle So Sweden was right all the time. The government in power with a majority decided on the policy (and then didn't bother following it), as such they largely responsible for it, was my point. Sweden took a different approach and still have staggeringly high inflation; it's a global issue with no way that. That said certainly fewer lockdowns may have made a positive difference to the economy. All in all, a mix of Brexit (which I voted for but am realistic about), Pandemic, and now Ukraine have put us where we are. There was very likely no way out of recession, though possibly somewhat the severity of it.
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BlueJay

UK 12 May 22 5.35pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So Sweden was right all the time.

The government in power with a majority decided on the policy (and then didn't bother following it), as such they largely responsible for it, was my point.

Sweden took a different approach and still have staggeringly high inflation; it's a global issue with no way that. That said certainly fewer lockdowns may have made a positive difference to the economy.

All in all, a mix of Brexit (which I voted for but am realistic about), Pandemic, and now Ukraine have put us where we are. There was very likely no way out of recession, though possibly somewhat the severity of it.

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BlueJay UK 12 May 22 5.36pm
Originally posted by cryrst Not with freedom of movement though ! And even with us, problems being that post Brexit, the government just finds another way to rejig the system to keep immigration coming thick and fast. Just more often from outside of EU countries.
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BlueJay

UK 12 May 22 5.36pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Not with freedom of movement though !

And even with us, problems being that post Brexit, the government just finds another way to rejig the system to keep immigration coming thick and fast. Just more often from outside of EU countries.

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Teddy Eagle 12 May 22 5.42pm
Originally posted by BlueJay The government in power with a majority decided on the policy (and then didn't bother following it), as such they largely responsible for it, was my point. Sweden took a different approach and still have staggeringly high inflation; it's a global issue with no way that. That said certainly fewer lockdowns may have made a positive difference to the economy. All in all, a mix of Brexit (which I voted for but am realistic about), Pandemic, and now Ukraine have put us where we are. There was very likely no way out of recession, though possibly somewhat the severity of it. And the Government were criticised by the Opposition for not locking down sooner, harder and longer. You're right though that a combination of events have created something of a perfect storm.
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Teddy Eagle

12 May 22 5.42pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

The government in power with a majority decided on the policy (and then didn't bother following it), as such they largely responsible for it, was my point.

And the Government were criticised by the Opposition for not locking down sooner, harder and longer.
You're right though that a combination of events have created something of a perfect storm.

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BlueJay UK 12 May 22 6.05pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And the Government were criticised by the Opposition for not locking down sooner, harder and longer. You're right though that a combination of events have created something of a perfect storm. Oh yes, I certainly doubt it would've been much different whoever was in. Was more a decision about how many lockdowns rather than if it would happen. PPE contracts and the like were likely a nice incentive too. Definitely a perfect storm, of global and national factors that even in a best case scenario was going to be very sh!itty. Now it's more a case of how terrible things will get. Anyones guess really, though it's not looking pretty. Edited by BlueJay (12 May 2022 6.39pm)
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BlueJay

UK 12 May 22 6.05pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And the Government were criticised by the Opposition for not locking down sooner, harder and longer.
You're right though that a combination of events have created something of a perfect storm.

Oh yes, I certainly doubt it would've been much different whoever was in. Was more a decision about how many lockdowns rather than if it would happen. PPE contracts and the like were likely a nice incentive too.

Definitely a perfect storm, of global and national factors that even in a best case scenario was going to be very sh!itty. Now it's more a case of how terrible things will get. Anyones guess really, though it's not looking pretty.

Edited by BlueJay (12 May 2022 6.39pm)

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Stirlingsays 12 May 22 6.24pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle So Sweden was right all the time. There was always going to be an economic impact unless you completely ignored covid but yes....in my view....Sweden treated their population far more like adults instead of children. The economic impact was lower as a result but it was always going to be there. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 May 2022 6.26pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

12 May 22 6.24pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So Sweden was right all the time.

There was always going to be an economic impact unless you completely ignored covid but yes....in my view....Sweden treated their population far more like adults instead of children.

The economic impact was lower as a result but it was always going to be there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 May 2022 6.26pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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W12 12 May 22 6.50pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Did that magically happen then? Or was a government with a majority in place when it did.. Do you think I support this government? (or it’s “opposition”)
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W12 12 May 22 6.50pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Did that magically happen then? Or was a government with a majority in place when it did..

Do you think I support this government? (or it’s “opposition”)

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Grumbles 12 May 22 7.13pm
Originally posted by W12 Do you think I support this government? (or it’s “opposition”) I think you support troops that then shoot civilians to loot half a bottle of scotch.
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Grumbles 12 May 22 7.13pm

Originally posted by W12

Do you think I support this government? (or it’s “opposition”)

I think you support troops that then shoot civilians to loot half a bottle of scotch.

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