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Park Road Flag 26 Nov 17 7.35am

Originally posted by nickgusset

for balance... Edinburgh today.

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The FLA’s failure was the result of consistent efforts by Stand Up To Racism (SUTR) to explain the dangers of racist division to football fans, and to build maximum anti-racist unity in advance of 25 November.

SUTR leafletted matches over several weeks and was well received.

A unity statement was issued and backed by the STUC plus all the major trade unions, political, football and community organisations.

On the day the SUTR unity rally had national and local banners from EIS and Unison, speeches from the SNP, Labour and Green parties, the Muslim Women’s Association and many more.

Statements of support were read out from the newly elected Scottish Labour leader, Richard Leonard, SNP MPs and Jews for Peace.

While the slogans of the Stand up to Racism rally focussed on unity, VAT and FLA claims not to be racist or extremist were belied by their speeches which focussed exclusively on attacking Islam.

The FLA has claimed to be drawing a clear line on far right involvement in its activities. But that pretence was dropped with the speakers at the Edinburgh rally. These included Ex English Democrat candidate and far right activist Toni Bugle, Bill Weir who spoke on an English Defence League demo a year ago, and Mo Fyaz, an associate of Tommy Robinson.

Interesting use of the word "balance"
My link shows a letter responding to the demonizing of the FLA by the far left. Your link shows an article by the (oh so balanced socialist worker) demonizing the FLA.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 Nov 17 11.10am

Originally posted by Park Road

Interesting use of the word "balance"
My link shows a letter responding to the demonizing of the FLA by the far left. Your link shows an article by the (oh so balanced socialist worker) demonizing the FLA.

Who spoke at the Edinburgh match?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Nov 17 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

for balance... Edinburgh today.

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The FLA’s failure was the result of consistent efforts by Stand Up To Racism (SUTR) to explain the dangers of racist division to football fans, and to build maximum anti-racist unity in advance of 25 November.

SUTR leafletted matches over several weeks and was well received.

A unity statement was issued and backed by the STUC plus all the major trade unions, political, football and community organisations.

On the day the SUTR unity rally had national and local banners from EIS and Unison, speeches from the SNP, Labour and Green parties, the Muslim Women’s Association and many more.

Statements of support were read out from the newly elected Scottish Labour leader, Richard Leonard, SNP MPs and Jews for Peace.

While the slogans of the Stand up to Racism rally focussed on unity, VAT and FLA claims not to be racist or extremist were belied by their speeches which focussed exclusively on attacking Islam.

The FLA has claimed to be drawing a clear line on far right involvement in its activities. But that pretence was dropped with the speakers at the Edinburgh rally. These included Ex English Democrat candidate and far right activist Toni Bugle, Bill Weir who spoke on an English Defence League demo a year ago, and Mo Fyaz, an associate of Tommy Robinson.


How is attacking Islam 'racist' or extremist?

There is a lot to attack. Is criticising something now no allowed?
Attacking the Tories seems to be OK.

 

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Park Road Flag 27 Nov 17 1.32pm

Deluded SUTR calling mixed race journalist racist at Edinburgh march

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elgrande Flag bedford 27 Nov 17 2.48pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Park Road

Deluded SUTR calling mixed race journalist racist at Edinburgh march

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Pathetic aren't they,the guy was answering all his points....and he blurts out "you are rascist".

They think that by calling someone rascist it wins the argument...absolutely pathetic.


But pretty standard.

 


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Park Road Flag 27 Nov 17 3.09pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Pathetic aren't they,the guy was answering all his points....and he blurts out "you are rascist".

They think that by calling someone rascist it wins the argument...absolutely pathetic.


But pretty standard.

Its like flogging a dead horse with these ignorant, misinformed simpletons

Edited by Park Road (27 Nov 2017 3.21pm)

 

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johnfirewall Flag 27 Nov 17 6.48pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Originally posted by Park Road

Deluded SUTR calling mixed race journalist racist at Edinburgh march

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TBH neither of those arguments are particularly constructive. It just goes round in circles.

The only person I can really think of who is able to address extremism is Maajid Nahwaz. When I say able, I mean in terms of his understanding of Islam but moreover his defence against accusations of Islamophobia. And even then the left deem him an extremist.

 

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danny choo choo Flag Hayes 27 Nov 17 11.04pm Send a Private Message to danny choo choo Add danny choo choo as a friend

honeslty boys its not worth trying to convince Mr gussett as he thinks we're all rascists.
we have countless times stated we are aware that the FLA will fit the far right agenda and we are determined that they wont hijack it because we are onto something potentially very big and heading in the right direction and so will not let that happen and that is why the far left and the media/establishment are running scared and trying to discredit us at every opportunity but they have absolutely nothing on us!

just out of interest Mr gussett how do you feel about Moazzam Begg the man who said jahadi john was a good guy speaking at your lots big meeting? and dont say you dont follow and support the stand up to rascism group because its always ypur point of reference.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 17 11.13pm

Originally posted by danny choo choo

honeslty boys its not worth trying to convince Mr gussett as he thinks we're all rascists.
we have countless times stated we are aware that the FLA will fit the far right agenda and we are determined that they wont hijack it because we are onto something potentially very big and heading in the right direction and so will not let that happen and that is why the far left and the media/establishment are running scared and trying to discredit us at every opportunity but they have absolutely nothing on us!

just out of interest Mr gussett how do you feel about Moazzam Begg the man who said jahadi john was a good guy speaking at your lots big meeting? and dont say you dont follow and support the stand up to rascism group because its always ypur point of reference.


In response to biased article posted by park road I wrote...

Originally posted by nickgusset

Some good points and some twaddle too.

Right wing groups will try and ride the coat tails of the FLA. As long as the FLA get them to sling their hook then great.

I felt the article played down the far right elements trying to be involved.

I think it's worth having a look at the Facebook profiles of some of those who follow the FLA. They're certainly not anti racist like the FLA wishes to be seen as.

Have a word with the leaders of the group and see if they can arrange a march alongside some anti terrorism Muslim groups. That would send the best message of not being defeated to IS


Read the thread before mentioning me by name accusing me of all sorts of s***.

Is there a (reputable) link to the Moazam Begg so I can think about it as I will know the context.

BTW [Link]

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Nov 17 12.21am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Read the thread before mentioning me by name accusing me of all sorts of s***.

Is there a (reputable) link to the Moazam Begg so I can think about it as I will know the context.

BTW [Link]

KLAXON !!!!!!!!

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Nov 17 12.43am

Originally posted by Jimenez

KLAXON !!!!!!!!

It's happening again...

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Nov 17 12.47am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's happening again...

Yeah annoying ain't it, a bit like you crying to the mods about me on the 80s thread when I mentioned Neil Kinnock? Have a good night now?

 


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