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DanH Flag SW2 02 Dec 20 5.30pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It’s a shame the same question wasn’t tweeted here because this is the answer this expert gave, on a left wing radio show and station.

What has left or right wing got to do with anything to do with the vaccine?

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 20 5.39pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What has left or right wing got to do with anything to do with the vaccine?

Well ignore that part of my post then. He couldn’t answer the question because he and they don’t know, and neither do you. And how many times have we heard about asymptomatic people spreading it?

It will be great if this isn’t an issue, and even better if the vulnerable and those with the vulnerable who think they have to take it take it willingly asap, because after all, those against shielding the vulnerable widened that number so much to the majority of the population. At that point they’ll have vaccinated enough for herd immunity.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 02 Dec 20 5.46pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Well they're different viruses.

Did they know that at that point though Chris? I think that is the point Canterbury is making.

Clinical observations are similar for flu with chest issues and COVID so if they didn’t have a specific test then, how would they know?

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 02 Dec 20 5.46pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

[Link]

Starts at 40secs in

She’s AWESOME

Edited by matthau (02 Dec 2020 5.47pm)

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 20 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

[Link]

‘How does a vaccine work’ (a brand new one)

‘How do vaccines protect individuals and communities?’

‘Vaccines work by training and preparing the body’s natural defences – the immune system – to recognize and fight off viruses and bacteria. If the body is exposed to those disease-causing pathogens later, it will be ready to destroy them quickly – which prevents illness.

When a person gets vaccinated against a disease, their risk of infection is also reduced – so they’re also far less likely to transmit the disease to others. As more people in a community get vaccinated, fewer people remain vulnerable, and there is less possibility for passing the pathogen on from person to person. Lowering the possibility for a pathogen to circulate in the community protects those who cannot be vaccinated due to other serious health conditions from the disease targeted by the vaccine. This is called “herd immunity.”

“Herd immunity” exists when a high percentage of the population is vaccinated, making it difficult for infectious diseases to spread, because there are not many people who can be infected. But herd immunity only works if most people are vaccinated. At the same time, herd immunity does not protect against all vaccine-preventable diseases. For example, tetanus is caught from bacteria in the environment, not from other people, so those who are unimmunized are not protected from the disease even if most of the rest of the community is vaccinated.’

They aren’t certain, unless you can show me they are.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Dec 2020 6.05pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 02 Dec 20 6.11pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by matthau

[Link]

Starts at 40secs in

She’s AWESOME

Edited by matthau (02 Dec 2020 5.47pm)

hahaha. So condescending

It's like reasoned judgement based on personal, objective analysis of information (historical and present) is somehow worse than saying no to everything for literally no reason other than belief / monetising (I've never seen so many s*** ads)

I do agree that the mRNA vaccines should be swerved in the short term until we know more about auto-immune responses... the key non-mRNAs based on existing methods of delivery, less bothered. Much lower risk

Or y'know, just sack all of it off because microchips, obviously.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 20 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I don't really know.

If the vaccine reduces the death toll then that's acceptable regardless of it being a silver bullet as that probably comes later?

I've long stopped trying to figure out what goes through Karen and Ken's head.....I gave up when I realised it stops at 'save granny' and that's it. They just nod along to anything.

Lots of them are very nice people and include family members.

Exactly. I’m just raising the question I’ve heard nobody address or answer. It’s a perfectly reasonable question but gets a certain type in a right strop. Or get an expert answering with ‘Er er er er.’ If he was confident he’d answer it swiftly.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 02 Dec 20 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

It's a perfect example of someone thinking something is the fault of the EU when it literally wasn't.

There are plenty of instances of people blaming the EU for something when it wasn't at all. The immigration rules being the biggest one.

Can you elaborate on your comment on the Immigration rules. Having worked for Immigration for over 30 years I am very interested

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 02 Dec 20 6.22pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Because the world has had to lock down to supress the spread.

But we didn’t lockdown did we! We kept the borders open and received hundreds of illegal economic migrants from over the Channel

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 02 Dec 20 6.26pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But we didn’t lockdown did we! We kept the borders open and received hundreds of illegal economic migrants from over the Channel

I was answering in context a specific post.

 

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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 02 Dec 20 6.34pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Well they're different viruses.

Yes, that present themselves in extremely similar ways, hence me using the word 'misdiagnosed'.

[Link]

"Because some of the symptoms of flu and COVID-19 are similar, it may be hard to tell the difference between them based on symptoms alone, and testing may be needed to help confirm a diagnosis."

 


We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 02 Dec 20 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But we didn’t lockdown did we! We kept the borders open and received hundreds of illegal economic migrants from over the Channel

But by no closing our borders we allowed the spread. Inbound flights from China until late March/April, allowing passengers from all over the globe to travel here throughout lockdown. Can’t defend it

 

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