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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 02 Dec 20 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

As an aside to my above post, this was the article which reminded me that flu cases were eight times higher last year than the year before.

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Given that it is now emerging that Coronavirus was around last December, doesn't that strike you as coincidental?

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 02 Dec 20 4.20pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

As an aside to my above post, this was the article which reminded me that flu cases were eight times higher last year than the year before.

[Link]

Given that it is now emerging that Coronavirus was around last December, doesn't that strike you as coincidental?

That's 2019 against 2018 flu cases - not sure how Coronavirus plays?

 

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DanH Flag SW2 02 Dec 20 4.27pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

The vaccine helps the immune system fight the virus surely?

To be honest with you Chris I'm completely lost with the point he's trying to make.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 20 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

To be honest with you Chris I'm completely lost with the point he's trying to make.

Can people vaccinated still carry the virus and be infectious.

Seems you can’t read more than 1-2 lines as well as write them.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 02 Dec 20 4.32pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I knew you would say this and avoid the question.

Come on, you don’t know, do you?

How was that avoiding the question? Look, you're perfectly within your rights to refuse the vaccine and take your chance with the virus. But the more people that take your stance, the more people get sick, the more people need hospital treatment and the more people die.

The more vocal that anti-vaxxers are also helps sway others who may be easily influenced with their misinformation and scare mongering who might then end up getting sick or potentially dying.

There's a reason the government are looking for respected celebrities to help them boost the take-up of the vaccine.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 02 Dec 20 4.34pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

To be honest with you Chris I'm completely lost with the point he's trying to make.

Well how this vaccine works has been reported widely for a few weeks now.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Dec 20 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Well how this vaccine works has been reported widely for a few weeks now.

The Pfizer vaccine works on RNA whereas the Astra Zenica vaccine works on a vaccine vector.
Pfizer vaccine is far more expensive per dose than the one developed by the Oxford Astra Zenica team.

 

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DanH Flag SW2 02 Dec 20 4.39pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Can people vaccinated still carry the virus and be infectious.

Seems you can’t read more than 1-2 lines as well as write them.

The vaccine prompts an immune response in the body so that it fights it before it takes hold so it does not get to that stage. Most vaccines work by injecting dead pathogens which mean the risk of any spread is greatly reduced.

I still don't really get the wider point you are getting at though.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 02 Dec 20 4.50pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

How was that avoiding the question? Look, you're perfectly within your rights to refuse the vaccine and take your chance with the virus. But the more people that take your stance, the more people get sick, the more people need hospital treatment and the more people die.

The more vocal that anti-vaxxers are also helps sway others who may be easily influenced with their misinformation and scare mongering who might then end up getting sick or potentially dying.

There's a reason the government are looking for respected celebrities to help them boost the take-up of the vaccine.

I’m not sure how being careful about taking something which is still unproven in the wider public amounts to spreading misinformation.

I’ll happily tell anyone I’m not happy about taking it at least until we have more information but it would be wrong to tar everyone who feels this way with the anti vaxxer brush.

The ultimate issue with what you say is, what if something goes wrong and they find out that people with a certain genetic make up react badly to this new technology. How would you feel then?

 

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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 02 Dec 20 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

That's 2019 against 2018 flu cases - not sure how Coronavirus plays?


Well if last December mysteriously had 8x more cases than the year before and it's now being suggested that Coronavirus was present then, strikes me as there being a fair chance that a number of Coronavirus cases were being misdiagnosed as flu, no?

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 02 Dec 20 4.59pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


Well if last December mysteriously had 8x more cases than the year before and it's now being suggested that Coronavirus was present then, strikes me as there being a fair chance that a number of Coronavirus cases were being misdiagnosed as flu, no?

Well they're different viruses.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 20 5.09pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

The vaccine prompts an immune response in the body so that it fights it before it takes hold so it does not get to that stage. Most vaccines work by injecting dead pathogens which mean the risk of any spread is greatly reduced.

I still don't really get the wider point you are getting at though.

It’s a shame the same question wasn’t tweeted here because this is the answer this expert gave, on a left wing radio show and station.

 


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