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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 7.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not compulsory but you have to have it if you want to go outside your own house.

It shouldn't quite come to that but if that is what the majority expect then that's the way it's likely to go. You will always have a choice but as time passes without any negatives being found, confidence will grow along with the disadvantages of refusal.

It will likely just become a routine we all accept as normal and then forget until next year. There will have to be a forge free verification method set up though.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Nov 20 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It shouldn't quite come to that but if that is what the majority expect then that's the way it's likely to go. You will always have a choice but as time passes without any negatives being found, confidence will grow along with the disadvantages of refusal.

It will likely just become a routine we all accept as normal and then forget until next year. There will have to be a forge free verification method set up though.

Provided no negatives are found is the key. Since it usually takes 10 years to develop a vaccine the time constraints in this case could well mean that the testing hasn’t fully identified all potential shortcomings.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Provided no negatives are found is the key. Since it usually takes 10 years to develop a vaccine the time constraints in this case could well mean that the testing hasn’t fully identified all potential shortcomings.

From what I understand to be the case that isn't actually true. It seems that all these new vaccines are taking a completely new route. It seems they are taking an existing, well tested and known to be safe, vaccine and making a small genetic modification which tricks the immune system into being ready to fight the target virus should it be encountered. Apparently the genetic modification can have no impact on safety, although it is still being tested alongside it's efficacy. The supplementary benefit of this being that should another virus emerge that it ought to be possible to swiftly develop a vaccine.

 


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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 30 Nov 20 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I bet you are fun at parties, when you are allowed to go again. Wait a mo, you probably still are, as there isn't a second wave and those statistics we see are just made up!

The hospitals may not yet be near full capacity, but it's not peak season yet. The Nightingale hospitals are ready as a fallback position for worst-case scenarios and to shift the treatment of C19 patients away from some hospitals which cannot cope safely. A new one has just opened in Exeter just for that purpose and is already receiving patients.

I bet you are also a climate change denier and think that vaccines are a control mechanism developed by Bill Gates, George Soros and the WHO to implant microchips in our brains. Believe in Q too? That's the real bollox.

What do parties have to do with what I wrote?

The statistics are distorted. Multiple posts of why, but you think a 'ball park' figure gives us reason to lock down the country.

Worst case scenarios were not realised during the main spread in late winter and spring, what makes it so different now? Especially as we now have more knowledge of the virus.

All those assumtions you make of me are completely wrong by the way. But you carry on casting aspersions. It bothers me not a jot. It merely shows you up as what you are. A narcissist. You give no thought to anyone who holds a different view to your own, even stooping to try and ridicule those who dare disagree with you. You are not a nice person.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 30 Nov 20 8.55pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Canada?

Only if you're paying.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 30 Nov 20 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Didn't the American version of the BMA classify being gay as a mental illness up until the late 1960's.

Yep, it was really short sighted of them to ignore the anti constipation possibilities.

Now it's so successful lots have to wear nappies.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Nov 20 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

From what I understand to be the case that isn't actually true. It seems that all these new vaccines are taking a completely new route. It seems they are taking an existing, well tested and known to be safe, vaccine and making a small genetic modification which tricks the immune system into being ready to fight the target virus should it be encountered. Apparently the genetic modification can have no impact on safety, although it is still being tested alongside it's efficacy. The supplementary benefit of this being that should another virus emerge that it ought to be possible to swiftly develop a vaccine.

Here’s hoping. The irony is that those not in the first tranche of recipients will be able to judge the reactions of those who are.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Nov 20 10.07pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

And so it begins.

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1984 has become an instruction manual.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

What do parties have to do with what I wrote?

Parties have nothing to do with what you wrote, or indeed my response. I just used them as an example of the sort of activity you might still be engaged in, given you think there is no second wave.

The statistics are distorted. Multiple posts of why, but you think a 'ball park' figure gives us reason to lock down the country.

I have no idea why you, or anyone else, believes they are "distorted". They seem clear enough to me and pretty unequivocal, although sometimes complicated. We haven't locked down. We face restrictions. The schools and universities are open. Most still work. It's our social life which has been most impacted. Most of us can accept the need for some temporary restraints to aid the wider community.

Worst case scenarios were not realised during the main spread in late winter and spring, what makes it so different now? Especially as we now have more knowledge of the virus.

You are right, they weren't! Why? Because we did lockdown and stopped the spread. We are better at treating but too much contact still spreads the disease and sick people still need hospitalisation to be treated. The point of all of this is to protect the NHS and although that's been a consistent message some still don't seem to understand it.

All those assumtions you make of me are completely wrong by the way. But you carry on casting aspersions. It bothers me not a jot. It merely shows you up as what you are. A narcissist. You give no thought to anyone who holds a different view to your own, even stooping to try and ridicule those who dare disagree with you. You are not a nice person.

I'll take your word for you not being all the things your attitude indicates that you might be, but that doesn't mean your approach on C19 is any better. Denying the impact of C19 and wanting to just ignore it, as you seem to suggest we must do, makes no sense to me. Holding different views is fine. That's your right. Me disagreeing with them and calling out what I see as hypocrisy in any way I choose is mine. If you decide to take that personally there's little I can do. It's the views that I am criticising.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Dec 20 12.25am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

The new tiered lockdowns have been decided using data up to.... 19 November.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Dec 20 12.26am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

‘’Covid is bollox’’ nurse is back filming A&E depts

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Dec 20 12.29am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

The most occupied hospitals [Link]

Surrey and Sussex healthcare is in the top 10. Maybe there’s a lot more older people. Feels that way sometimes.

 


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