This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Gaza Strip 'invades' Israel.
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
 HKOwen  Hong Kong 12 Nov 23 8.57am |
  |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
is this the Gaza thread ? or the abuse other posters thread ? It's the don't make rude insulting comments about other people's drinking or abstinence thread, as well as Gaza
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
 georgenorman  12 Nov 23 9.03am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s a view held by many, but not all. He is right to say that the right to protest should be respected, alongside the rights of others to peacefully remember be respected by any protesting. This seems to have understood by everyone involved, the police included, with the exception of those minorities intent on confrontation. I don’t though see why protesters should be condemned for campaigning against the whole concept of the state of Israel. It was a political construct and political constructs can be reversed, however unlikely that might be in reality. It’s not anti-Semitic to do so. It’s anti-Zionism. If a reasonable compromise is ever going to be found then both sides must state their ultimate positions before there is any way of knowing where the middle is. I think that’s all that’s involved here. The ultimate local position of the government of Palestine (Hamas) is to destroy the state of Israel and kill all Jews and their wider ultimate position is to create a worldwide Islamic Caliphate. The ultimate position of Israel is to destroy Hamas, free Israeli hostages and protect themselves. You appear to share, or at the least lend tacit support to, the ultimate objective of Hamas in destroying the state of Israel. Edited by georgenorman (12 Nov 2023 9.12am)
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 12 Nov 23 9.35am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by georgenorman
The ultimate local position of the government of Palestine (Hamas) is to destroy the state of Israel and kill all Jews and their wider ultimate position is to create a worldwide Islamic Caliphate. The ultimate position of Israel is to destroy Hamas, free Israeli hostages and protect themselves. You appear to share, or at the least lend tacit support to, the ultimate objective of Hamas in destroying the state of Israel. Edited by georgenorman (12 Nov 2023 9.12am) I think it's the unhindered slaughter of the Palestinian population, razing of communities, destroying hospitals and refugee camps, cutting off food, water, medical and electricity supplies. These might just be a tad war-crime (ish).
I disengage, I turn the page. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| HKOwen Hong Kong 12 Nov 23 10.26am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
I think it's the unhindered slaughter of the Palestinian population, razing of communities, destroying hospitals and refugee camps, cutting off food, water, medical and electricity supplies. These might just be a tad war-crime (ish). Perhaps you should find out what carpet bombing is before you start using it in a discussion.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Nov 23 10.38am |
|
|---|---|
|
Hamas to an extent, was created by Israel. It financed the Palestinian Islamist movement, viewing it as a "counterweight" to the secularist Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as "a creature of Israel." Divide and rule. Edited by steeleye20 (12 Nov 2023 10.39am)
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| HKOwen Hong Kong 12 Nov 23 10.50am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
Hamas to an extent, was created by Israel. It financed the Palestinian Islamist movement, viewing it as a "counterweight" to the secularist Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as "a creature of Israel." Divide and rule. Edited by steeleye20 (12 Nov 2023 10.39am) You are suggesting Israel share blame for the Oct 7th massacre. Disgusting but not surprising from a lauder of anti semites/jew haters.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 12 Nov 23 11.17am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
Hamas to an extent, was created by Israel. It financed the Palestinian Islamist movement, viewing it as a "counterweight" to the secularist Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as "a creature of Israel." Divide and rule. Edited by steeleye20 (12 Nov 2023 10.39am) What was actually different about Hamas? They were legitimately elected by the Palestinians but as far as I'm aware, not on a terrorist agenda. People want jobs and quality of life not insecurity and violence. How Hamas expected to achieve the former by attacking Israel in the way that they did beggars belief. What are we doing in the area with a detachment of Marines, 2 hospital ships and onboard helicopters? Is this humanitarian assistance on stand by and are we expecting a ceasefire at some point?
Denial is not just a river in Egypt |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| HKOwen Hong Kong 12 Nov 23 11.28am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
What was actually different about Hamas? They were legitimately elected by the Palestinians but as far as I'm aware, not on a terrorist agenda. People want jobs and quality of life not insecurity and violence. How Hamas expected to achieve the former by attacking Israel in the way that they did beggars belief. What are we doing in the area with a detachment of Marines, 2 hospital ships and onboard helicopters? Is this humanitarian assistance on stand by and are we expecting a ceasefire at some point?
Gaza gives them a recruiting ground It's just a terrible situation, Fatah would be a much better
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Nov 23 11.23pm |
|
|---|---|
|
'A cabinet reshuffle will not change the fatal consequences of a continued refusal to call for a ceasefire. It will not mask our government's complicity in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. And it will not stop us demonstrating for a just and lasting peace.' Jeremy Corbyn today.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Nov 23 11.40pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
'A cabinet reshuffle will not change the fatal consequences of a continued refusal to call for a ceasefire. It will not mask our government's complicity in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. And it will not stop us demonstrating for a just and lasting peace.' Jeremy Corbyn today. I was just thinking today, if only Israel and everyone else were aware of Corbyn marching around, this highly complex, long running saga might come to an end. There may be hope after all.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
cryrst  The garden of England 14 Nov 23 5.35am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
Hamas to an extent, was created by Israel. It financed the Palestinian Islamist movement, viewing it as a "counterweight" to the secularist Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as "a creature of Israel." Divide and rule. Edited by steeleye20 (12 Nov 2023 10.39am) I reckon we should blame the crusades if you want a scapegoat. Although Orlando might feel he was correct
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| cryrst The garden of England 14 Nov 23 5.37am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
'A cabinet reshuffle will not change the fatal consequences of a continued refusal to call for a ceasefire. It will not mask our government's complicity in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. And it will not stop us demonstrating for a just and lasting peace.' Jeremy Corbyn today. Explain how hmg are complicit in Hamas hiding weapons in schools and hospitals. Do you think mayday has a few nukes in the basement ?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.