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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 20 Jun 24 11.33am |
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Scottish doctors have increased 17.5% past two years. Can't see the English and NI setting for less. 35% would have cost 2 billion gross per DOH and 1 billion net per BMA. If we split the difference that's 750 million for 17.5 %, unfunded in the manifesto
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steeleye20  Croydon 20 Jun 24 11.46am |
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“The government believed it could ignore, delay and offer excuses long enough that we would simply give up. That attitude has now led to the NHS wasting £3bn covering the strikes. This is more than double the cost of settling our whole claim.” They would probably have settled for 15-17 percent over a year ago and we would not have had to spend £3 billion plus and with all the ongoing human cost and damage to the NHS.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 20 Jun 24 11.53am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
But the whole premise of your observation is flawed - you've already concluded that "If they settle for less after the GE then it suggests their striking is as much political as it is about money." We all know they're going to settle for less than 35%, which is clearly the 'opening offer' from the unions. In every wage dispute the settlement is less than the initial demand from the union - you can't just invent your own conclusions about what that means. If they settle for a deal post election that is available now then we will have our answer.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 20 Jun 24 12.49pm |
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BOE keeps rates at 5.25%, while inflation down to 2%. They are even worse than the tories. Or Labour.....
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Teddy Eagle  20 Jun 24 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
BOE keeps rates at 5.25%, while inflation down to 2%. They are even worse than the tories. Or Labour.....
Just get a big lorry, fill it up with money, drive it to the bank and watch the interest roll in.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Jun 24 12.57pm |
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You often hear the jeer from the left that Farage is always rejected as an MP candidate and they try to give the impression that he's unpopular....that last part is a lie but lying is part of the psyche for some of the left...as is the hatred they accuse their opponents of. In truth they use dirty tricks against him....again, quite common. I say this because today I saw this tweet by a left wing influencer Matthew Stadlen on X (Twitter) 'If you’re a Lib Dem or Green voter in Clacton and vote tactically, you could keep Nigel Farage out of Parliament.' If this worked and Farage did lose in Clacton they would then claim that he's been rejected again naturally when in truth they manipulated the natural course of events.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 20 Jun 24 1.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You often hear the jeer from the left that Farage is always rejected as an MP candidate and they try to give the impression that he's unpopular....that last part is a lie but lying is part of the psyche for some of the left...as is the hatred they accuse their opponents of. In truth they use dirty tricks against him....again, quite common. I say this because today I saw this tweet by a left wing influencer Matthew Stadlen on X (Twitter) 'If you’re a Lib Dem or Green voter in Clacton and vote tactically, you could keep Nigel Farage out of Parliament.' If this worked and Farage did lose in Clacton they would then claim that he's been rejected again naturally when in truth they manipulated the natural course of events. Stand by for an enormous amount of postal votes for the Clacton area; 16 people in a caravan, 34 people registered in a pub, and an extraordinary amount of people who are out of the country...LOL!
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 24 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Stand by for an enormous amount of postal votes for the Clacton area; 16 people in a caravan, 34 people registered in a pub, and an extraordinary amount of people who are out of the country...LOL! They fiddled it last time, didn't they?
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| georgenorman 20 Jun 24 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
BOE keeps rates at 5.25%, while inflation down to 2%. They are even worse than the tories. Or Labour.....
None of them should be setting interest rates - the market should 'set' interest rates.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Jun 24 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You often hear the jeer from the left that Farage is always rejected as an MP candidate and they try to give the impression that he's unpopular....that last part is a lie but lying is part of the psyche for some of the left...as is the hatred they accuse their opponents of. In truth they use dirty tricks against him....again, quite common. I say this because today I saw this tweet by a left wing influencer Matthew Stadlen on X (Twitter) 'If you’re a Lib Dem or Green voter in Clacton and vote tactically, you could keep Nigel Farage out of Parliament.' If this worked and Farage did lose in Clacton they would then claim that he's been rejected again naturally when in truth they manipulated the natural course of events. There's been tactical voting in every election I can remember - I struggle to see how someone calling for people to vote tactically is 'manipulating the natural course of events'. When the Brexit party made a tactical decision not to contest Tory seats, was that also manipulating the natural course of events?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Jun 24 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
There's been tactical voting in every election I can remember - I struggle to see how someone calling for people to vote tactically is 'manipulating the natural course of events'. When the Brexit party made a tactical decision not to contest Tory seats, was that also manipulating the natural course of events? Of course it is. Tactical voting is not so unlike PR via a single transferable vote. When your primary aim is avoid an outcome accepting a least worse one is an honourable decision.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Jun 24 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
None of them should be setting interest rates - the market should 'set' interest rates.
End up with hyper inflation and a tsunami of bankruptcies. Great outcome.
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