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Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.09pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Penge Eagle
And we're living in an age where the media posts up mobile phone footage of violent acts happening around Britain every day of the week. And in these 20-second clips, we're all judge and jury as to what actually happened before, during and after. Everyone's getting angry, while the Mail Online and Guardian are coining it in with the clicks. Edited by Penge Eagle (09 Jun 2019 6.01pm) That's a two way street though. When someone punches Tommy when he's clearly no physical threat to them, it's documented evidence and he's within his right to take action. I would suggest we treat their 'here's what really happened' after the fact video in the same way that we treat his. In that there may or may not be something to it, but the actual video evidence of an assault is there to see.
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cryrst The garden of England 09 Jun 19 6.13pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Park Road
Dollardays, in the real world there is no such thing as a fair fight. Unfortunately, it's not 1940-50s Hollywood. chivalry, died a long time ago. So true
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ChrisGC Wantage 09 Jun 19 6.14pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
"It's called a decent upbringing" Exactly. Only doing what my Mum taught me. I'll pass that mentality onto mine when the time is right, they already know to speak to others how they wish to be spoken to. I'd much rather be the parent of a child who knew how to get out of a sticky situation then one grieving because their idealist child got kicked to death waiting for the rules of engagement to be established. Like you say, all in the upbringing.
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ChrisGC Wantage 09 Jun 19 6.16pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
That's a two way street though. When someone punches Tommy when he's clearly no physical threat to them, it's documented evidence and he's within his right to take action. I would suggest we treat their 'here's what really happened' after the fact video in the same way that we treat his. In that there may or may not be something to it, but the actual video evidence of an assault is there to see.
Please... Watch the video ffs. This isn't what happened.
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Mapletree Croydon 09 Jun 19 6.17pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Well, the good news is that any old have a go Harry that wants to lamp Yaxley for what he says is now completely within their rights to do it. Oh, and when you only have half an iris because the other half got torn our, your eye looks black. Edited by Mapletree (09 Jun 2019 6.17pm)
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ChrisGC Wantage 09 Jun 19 6.18pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
So true Exactly. These days you're a mug to let them get their hands out of their pockets as it'll probably have a knife in it, let alone ask them for a straightener, no headbutts or low blows. Multiculture for you. Enriching according to the left!
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Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.22pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Park Road
Dollardays, in the real world there is no such thing as a fair fight. Unfortunately, it's not 1940-50s Hollywood. chivalry, died a long time ago. It depends what you mean by fair. I would suggest that someone saying that they would 'jump on my head' is drifting someone from a notion of what any decent person would be expecting from a fight. Of course ChrisGC with his family that he clearly doesn't particularly care about, if he's filled with excitement about all of this apparently wild, head stamping fights he's been in or is egging on, is getting a little carried away and trying to relive his youth. That's his prerogative. As another poster said, as adults generally speaking people realise that if you keep having fights where you behave like this, it's not going to particularly end well for any of those involved. It's an unsustainable behaviour. Prison, brain damage, death? Oh what fun for the family. Someone didn't get enough toy soldiers as a kid.
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Park Road 09 Jun 19 6.22pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
Exactly. Only doing what my Mum taught me. I'll pass that mentality onto mine when the time is right, they already know to speak to others how they wish to be spoken to. I'd much rather be the parent of a child who knew how to get out of a sticky situation then one grieving because their idealist child got kicked to death waiting for the rules of engagement to be established. Like you say, all in the upbringing. Well said!
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Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.26pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
So true Everything is situational isn't it and yes thats something wroth paying mind to. Your logic legalimises knife crime though. 'I best tool up and stab someone in case they're going to do the same to me'. Clearly the vast majority of fights aren't serious, as you well know, late night pub stuff.. and as such this idea that we should all instantly have some kind of no holds barred approach where we're head stamping away.. even in case where the bloody bloke clearly wasn't interested in a fight, is absurd.
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Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.34pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
Exactly. Only doing what my Mum taught me. I'll pass that mentality onto mine when the time is right, they already know to speak to others how they wish to be spoken to. I'd much rather be the parent of a child who knew how to get out of a sticky situation then one grieving because their idealist child got kicked to death waiting for the rules of engagement to be established. Like you say, all in the upbringing. Yes because hitting someone who has offered up no physical threat and saying how in your shoes you'd have stamped on his head.. before telling 'me' that if I wanted a fair fight you would also stamp on my head if really going to 'get them out of a sticky situation' isnt it. Real Father of your year stuff. If you act like this to people in real life you'll obviously cause more problems than solve them.
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Park Road 09 Jun 19 6.36pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
Everything is situational isn't it and yes thats something wroth paying mind to. Your logic legalimises knife crime though. 'I best tool up and stab someone in case they're going to do the same to me'. Clearly the vast majority of fights aren't serious, as you well know, late night pub stuff.. and as such this idea that we should all instantly have some kind of no holds barred approach where we're head stamping away.. even in case where the bloody bloke clearly wasn't interested in a fight, is absurd. Dollardays, you're coming across a bit naive. Everything is situational? Well, yes! but we are talking about animal instincts, which is what we are, with the advantage of higher intelligence. If the bloke wasn't interested in a fight, then he would not have used such provocative words like racist. As said before, if your parents never told you about the dangers of insulting people you don't know, then live with you actions, and the consequences
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cryrst The garden of England 09 Jun 19 6.41pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
Everything is situational isn't it and yes thats something wroth paying mind to. Your logic legalimises knife crime though. 'I best tool up and stab someone in case they're going to do the same to me'. Clearly the vast majority of fights aren't serious, as you well know, late night pub stuff.. and as such this idea that we should all instantly have some kind of no holds barred approach where we're head stamping away.. even in case where the bloody bloke clearly wasn't interested in a fight, is absurd. I don't advocate carrying blades at all.
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