So doesn't it follow that any deaths under a Tory government are due to the mess that the previous Labour government left behind? Indeed, it seems that all these deaths are caused by government in general then. Perhaps we should abolish government altogether and try a bit of anarchy, then the death rate would drop dramatically? Actually, less government is in general a good thing and would help in all sorts of areas.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Whoooosh

appologies mate i can see why you thought of the FLA as such, as sadly the stand up to rascism group who are a front for the disgraced socialist workers party are a far left extreme radical group who are going out of their way to demonise us, we have done nothing to give them any reason to call us a far right group and they are now saying we are sexist because of the "lads" name lol even though we have a ladies alliance!
the Facts are- 2 marchs at least 50,000 in attendance only 1 arrest, people of different colours and creed in attendance plus the gurkas, a black man and fellow palace fan was a speaker,oh and an undercover itv reporter who was secretly filming for the "exposing the far right" documentary and low an behold in the 1 hour show the FLA didnt even get a mention not once!
ive read these leaflets they've been handing out at football grounds around the country and anyone would think we was marching with burning crosses with white sheets over our heads!
there is a march in Edinburgh on Saturday "the veterans against terroism" which the FLA are supporting as they marched with us in London and the local rag are reporting "far right marching in scotland"! all because of the fake news from stand up to rascism who incidently have the leader of CAGE Moazzam begg who said the isis terroist jihadi John was a good guy!
oh and its event is headed by the one and only Diane abbott. this clearly shows they have there own agenda and are scared that the FLA will exspose them for what they are. i will put the link below.

but you are right i probably am waisting my time on here but im hoping the many people who are on the fence get to here the truth about the FLA and the best way to find out is to join the group or even better come on the next march, you're more than welcome to send me a pm johnfirewall and i can add you to the group and you can make your own mind up.

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Not this crap again.

The variables are so numerous that it is impossible to know.
Perhaps the NHS might have been under less pressure if Blair hadn't exercised the option to allow thousands of Eastern Europeans to come here. JAT

Some good points and some twaddle too.

Right wing groups will try and ride the coat tails of the FLA. As long as the FLA get them to sling their hook then great.

I felt the article played down the far right elements trying to be involved.

I think it's worth having a look at the Facebook profiles of some of those who follow the FLA. They're certainly not anti racist like the FLA wishes to be seen as.

Have a word with the leaders of the group and see if they can arrange a march alongside some anti terrorism Muslim groups. That would send the best message of not being defeated to IS

for balance... Edinburgh today.

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The FLA’s failure was the result of consistent efforts by Stand Up To Racism (SUTR) to explain the dangers of racist division to football fans, and to build maximum anti-racist unity in advance of 25 November.