When you're in an abusive threatening relationship, you don't go bragging about the new squeeze. Otherwise nasty things happen:

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It's a real problem when your other half is an obsessive control freak.

But you're right. An entire government department was set up to secure international trade deals, but your blind hated of "duh tohrees" is telling you they're sitting on their arses doing nothing. You're desperate to believe that. We can't be successful! And certainly not with ACTUAL nazis in charge.

A mere month after the referendum result, 27 countries had in some form expressed interest in establishing bilateral trade links. I'd wager there are now many more.

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But yeah, you're right: they're just out to get what they want - they don't care about us! (Because trade deals are not a series of negotiations and concessions). They don't care about us like the EU does. If only we'd come back! They just overreacted that one time. They won't do it again. They just like a drink! They miss us (well, our huge contribution to their budget).

I will defer to Occam's Razor and make the logical assumption that the government ministry set up to pursue international trade deals is currently doing so. Do I want them shouting about it when we're still living under the same roof as the jealous control freak? No. Trump and May have already signed a deal that commences trade negotiations. I don't doubt many other agreements are also in place. I'd rather not many more details come out until the EU penchant for pett punitive action can no longer be applied to us.

Sooner we're out, the better.

The question (pursuant to this thread) is whether we want the Conservatives to lead these long-lasting trade deals, or a party the sodding UK Communist party now sees fit to rally behind. No. Brainer.

Thanks for that "evidence". I take it you're surprised the EU are acting in their own interests? I imagine I can take what you've said as a guarantee these brilliant deals will happen?

Trump and May actually signed something? A binding commitment??

Given we don't live in a world as imagined by Ricardo (which the Tories still seem to think we do) I'd much rather someone else was in control of our trade arrangement yes. Where capital can move freely and labour cannot it creates inefficiency and low productivity of labour where that labour is less competitive than equivalent labour across borders. This means that such labour becomes less productive and earns less and makes inequality even worse.

"The way in which globalisation has been managed has led to lower wages in part because workers’ bargaining power has been eviscerated. With capital highly mobile— and with tariffs low— firms can simply tell workers that if they don’t accept lower wages and worse working conditions, the company will move elsewhere. To see how asymmetric globalisation can affect bargaining power, imagine, for a moment, what the world would be like if there was free mobility of labour, but no mobility of capital. Countries would compete to attract workers. They would promise good schools and a good environment, as well as low taxes on workers. This could be financed by high taxes on capital. But that’s not the world we live in."

Those who want globalised capital markets but nationalistic labour markets are advocating making the lives of the working classes worse.

The main policy I keep hearing from the Tories is that May's a strong stable leader. Really? Is that what it's come down to? We'll make your lives worse if you're poorer than our mates but we have a strong leader so that's the main thing. How depressing. All the data and sensible realistic theory shows how bad a job these guys have done and will continue to do!

It is absolutely imperative that we have certainty and stability through Brexit negotiations and beyond.
The choice is between stable and strong leadership by Mrs May and a Conservative government or a weak and unstable coalition led by Corbyn and his comrades.

It is absolutely imperative that we have certainty and stability through Brexit negotiations and beyond.
The choice is between stable and strong leadership by Mrs May and a Conservative government or a weak and unstable coalition led by Corbyn and his comrades.

As I totaly agree with the sentiments it is natural that I post in such fashion.

Strong and stable leadership v weak and unstable coalition of chaos under Corbyn and his comrades.