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johnfirewall Flag 21 Aug 15 1.27pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Interesting turn this thread has taken. I did wonder to myself the other day at what point a racial stereotype or perception becomes a valid statistic.

At what point do we say actually there might be an issue, whether or not there may be a root cause unrelated to race.

The fundemental obstacle here is that you'll immediately cause conflict in singling out a particular group in any attemps to tackle the problem. And the additional obstacle being external meddlers' reaction that you're daring to do such a thing.

I did hear one figure recently that 90% of one nationality over here work while 90% of another don't, (both from the same continent, not the original or extended Shengen Area) I mean you can't even say it without raising eyebrows.

Edited by johnfirewall (21 Aug 2015 1.34pm)

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 21 Aug 15 1.31pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 1.13pm

Romanian thieves are behind 90% of UK cashpoint fraud.


You have a source for that right?



The police.

 


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ghosteagle Flag 21 Aug 15 1.39pm Send a Private Message to ghosteagle Add ghosteagle as a friend

Quote Cucking Funt at 21 Aug 2015 1.31pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 1.13pm

Romanian thieves are behind 90% of UK cashpoint fraud.


You have a source for that right?



The police.


Untrue. The daily fail article to which this story relates that 'police intelligence' 'suggests' that 'up to' 90%. Even given that it is from a paper so full of nonsense it is a highly qualified statement that has not been issued by the police.

Edited by ghosteagle (21 Aug 2015 1.41pm)

 

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johnfirewall Flag 21 Aug 15 1.41pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Quote Cucking Funt at 21 Aug 2015 1.31pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 1.13pm

Romanian thieves are behind 90% of UK cashpoint fraud.


You have a source for that right?



The police.

You don't really expect to get anywhere with a discussion about foreign criminals without being helpfully informed that they are a small minority and that there are also British criminals do you?

At least certain members aren't praising them for being resourceful, although Jamie will to be facetious!

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Aug 15 1.55pm

Quote johnfirewall at 21 Aug 2015 1.41pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 21 Aug 2015 1.31pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 1.13pm

Romanian thieves are behind 90% of UK cashpoint fraud.


You have a source for that right?



The police.

You don't really expect to get anywhere with a discussion about foreign criminals without being helpfully informed that they are a small minority and that there are also British criminals do you?

At least certain members aren't praising them for being resourceful, although Jamie will to be facetious!

Well I have to, as I take 20% of their earnings, as a tax.

I don't think its really productive to bandy statements as facts, without some supporting evidence. Its not like the internet isn't capable of providing data.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Aug 15 2.05pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 21 Aug 2015 1.31pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 1.13pm

Romanian thieves are behind 90% of UK cashpoint fraud.


You have a source for that right?



The police.

Apparently not the police, a police officer, the police claim to have no statistics to back this up and it seems that it relates to ITV's 'Fraud Squad' show, but was reported somewhat erroneously as 'fact' from Police Intelligence sources, by the Daily Express.

Interestingly, The Express which reported the 'Story' said it was Bulgarians and Romanians, when in fact the initial quite related to Romanians only.

The same article suggested 28,000 Romanians were arrested for serious offences in the UK. But in fact in the previous five years, 28,0000 or so Romanians had been arrested in total (including those on suspicion who weren't charges) and that only a small number of these were for serious offences.


 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 21 Aug 15 2.37pm

Sorry got it wrong - 92% rather than 90%

Source was DCI Paul Barnard, head of the Dedicated Cheque and Plastic Crime Unit (DCPCU) – a police unit run in partnership with banks and financial services companies. DCI Barnard told ITV1’s ‘Fraud Squad’ programme that:

“The fact is 92 per cent of all ATM fraud we see in this country is committed by Romanian nationals.”

 


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ghosteagle Flag 21 Aug 15 2.39pm Send a Private Message to ghosteagle Add ghosteagle as a friend

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 2.37pm

Sorry got it wrong - 92% rather than 90%

Source was DCI Paul Barnard, head of the Dedicated Cheque and Plastic Crime Unit (DCPCU) – a police unit run in partnership with banks and financial services companies. DCI Barnard told ITV1’s ‘Fraud Squad’ programme that:

“The fact is 92 per cent of all ATM fraud we see in this country is committed by Romanian nationals.”

This has already been debunked.

 

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TheJudge Flag 21 Aug 15 3.34pm

Debunked by people like you I expect Ghostweazel.

 

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Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 3.34pm

Debunked by people like you I expect Ghostweazel.

If you look up a couple of posts you will see that it has been completely debunked.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Aug 15 3.45pm

Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 3.34pm

Debunked by people like you I expect Ghostweazel.

Keep it civil please.

 


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TheJudge Flag 21 Aug 15 3.55pm

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Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 12.19pm

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Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 12.11pm

It might be fair to point out that we are discussing Britain here, which is overwhelmingly white in most areas.
The pakistani community represents only a few percent of the population yet people among their number have been responsible for numerous multiple sexual abuse cases around the country.

There is a major problem here that we have imported and no amount of political correctness should stop people from saying so.
These kind of circumstances appear to justify those who were afraid that mass immigration would bring us a whole host of problems that we didn't have before.
The liberal left always have some argument lined up for denial and play the race card as usual, but facts are facts.

Edited by TheJudge (21 Aug 2015 12.12pm)


What you saying is is that it is disproportionate. It's at this point that you need to back it up with some evidence. Not saying you are wrong. It is you who is playing the race card btw.


The evidence speaks for itself. Take the number of convictions for pakistani men and divide it by the population. It's not difficult.
It is your type of attitude that allowed the whole business to go on for so long.

About 0.003% rounded up, give or take.

In fact if we take every conviction in the UK for Child Sex Offences (including Scotland but not NI), it would be 0.16% of the 'pakistani' population.
The evidence really doesn't speak for itself at all.


A sex abuse ring of particular pakistani men in half a dozen towns in Britain when the population of these men is tiny and you don't see this as a disproportionate number. Amazing.

 

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