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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 29 Nov 20 12.52pm
only a die hard Boris/Carrie fan would say this isnt a 'lockdown'.....its exactly that, just with a different name......Boris still lying his tits off!! Im still coming over for a big family Christmas, all this tier 1/2/3 is bollocks...
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The garden of England.(not really) 29 Nov 20 12.52pm

only a die hard Boris/Carrie fan would say this isnt a 'lockdown'.....its exactly that, just with a different name......Boris still lying his tits off!! Im still coming over for a big family Christmas, all this tier 1/2/3 is bollocks...

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 29 Nov 20 1.00pm
Originally posted by cryrst Mrs ok. Now out of isolation and fine. Still very tired but no major issues. Me n boys still isolating until tuesday midnight unless we show symptoms. Be careful please as this does screw you mentally somewhat. excellent. hope the recovery is full. ^^^ Good comments, particularly from Wisbech Close family members (of mine) are teachers in schools. One pupil told her friend "I'm going for a sleepover this weekend at ......'s house". When you have reckless parents arranging stuff like this with (largely) asymptomatic kids, it just make me angry. One close family member is now very ill with CV19 that was caught from children at their school. This now means the school has to close for 2 weeks, and the infected teacher's whole family now have to isolate for 2 weeks. This means the 2 breadwinners are another 2 weeks short of pay, and their children and elderly relative (that lives in an annex next door) are now very much at risk. All from some moronic parent who must have breached lockdown with their kids. I watched loads of idiots yesterday , walking around a Nature Reserve, almost touching shoulders with other walkers as they passed. And don't get me started about the thoughtlessness of shoppers in supermarkets,.... Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Nov 2020 1.01pm) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by cryrst

Mrs ok.
Now out of isolation and fine. Still very tired but no major issues.
Me n boys still isolating until tuesday midnight unless we show symptoms.
Be careful please as this does screw you mentally somewhat.

excellent. hope the recovery is full. ^^^

Good comments, particularly from Wisbech

Close family members (of mine) are teachers in schools. One pupil told her friend "I'm going for a sleepover this weekend at ......'s house".

When you have reckless parents arranging stuff like this with (largely) asymptomatic kids, it just make me angry.
One close family member is now very ill with CV19 that was caught from children at their school. This now means the school has to close for 2 weeks, and the infected teacher's whole family now have to isolate for 2 weeks. This means the 2 breadwinners are another 2 weeks short of pay, and their children and elderly relative (that lives in an annex next door) are now very much at risk.
All from some moronic parent who must have breached lockdown with their kids. I watched loads of idiots yesterday , walking around a Nature Reserve, almost touching shoulders with other walkers as they passed.
And don't get me started about the thoughtlessness of shoppers in supermarkets,....

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Nov 2020 1.01pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 20 1.29pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly excellent. hope the recovery is full. ^^^ Good comments, particularly from Wisbech Close family members (of mine) are teachers in schools. One pupil told her friend "I'm going for a sleepover this weekend at ......'s house". When you have reckless parents arranging stuff like this with (largely) asymptomatic kids, it just make me angry. One close family member is now very ill with CV19 that was caught from children at their school. This now means the school has to close for 2 weeks, and the infected teacher's whole family now have to isolate for 2 weeks. This means the 2 breadwinners are another 2 weeks short of pay, and their children and elderly relative (that lives in an annex next door) are now very much at risk. All from some moronic parent who must have breached lockdown with their kids. I watched loads of idiots yesterday , walking around a Nature Reserve, almost touching shoulders with other walkers as they passed. And don't get me started about the thoughtlessness of shoppers in supermarkets,.... Edited by Forest Hillbilly (29 Nov 2020 1.01pm) And yet there’s been no crisis in supermarkets all year. There was a farmers’ market in London yesterday. It was full. No masks and no police presence. In central London people were getting the baton for peaceful protest. I agree that indoor close contact meets are where viruses infect. It’s always been the case. But asymptomatic infection apparently isn’t happening as was originally thought, and that’s coming from respected organisations. [Link] It probably is to some level, unless it’s just pre-symptom infection, but it isn’t to the level you avoid everyone like the plague, so schools being open but not having sleepovers I’d agree with. You can’t assume an infection has happened because breached lockdown. People have to and have been working all year. The one thing you can count on is that lower socioeconomic areas are a higher risk because of either work or property situations, or ignorance/not giving a sh1t. You then get ludicrous borders in between Oxted and Westerham when the issue is a problem elsewhere if people are ignoring all guidance. Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2020 1.30pm) COYP
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Caterham 29 Nov 20 1.29pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

excellent. hope the recovery is full. ^^^

Good comments, particularly from Wisbech

Close family members (of mine) are teachers in schools. One pupil told her friend "I'm going for a sleepover this weekend at ......'s house".

And yet there’s been no crisis in supermarkets all year.

There was a farmers’ market in London yesterday. It was full. No masks and no police presence. In central London people were getting the baton for peaceful protest.

I agree that indoor close contact meets are where viruses infect. It’s always been the case. But asymptomatic infection apparently isn’t happening as was originally thought, and that’s coming from respected organisations. [Link] It probably is to some level, unless it’s just pre-symptom infection, but it isn’t to the level you avoid everyone like the plague, so schools being open but not having sleepovers I’d agree with. You can’t assume an infection has happened because breached lockdown. People have to and have been working all year.

The one thing you can count on is that lower socioeconomic areas are a higher risk because of either work or property situations, or ignorance/not giving a sh1t. You then get ludicrous borders in between Oxted and Westerham when the issue is a problem elsewhere if people are ignoring all guidance.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2020 1.30pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 29 Nov 20 1.41pm
Originally posted by cryrst Mrs ok. Now out of isolation and fine. Still very tired but no major issues. Me n boys still isolating until tuesday midnight unless we show symptoms. Be careful please as this does screw you mentally somewhat. Glad to hear about the wife. Hope you and boys stay well. Take care
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Horsham 29 Nov 20 1.41pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Glad to hear about the wife. Hope you and boys stay well. Take care

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Nov 20 1.51pm
Originally posted by cryrst Mrs ok. Now out of isolation and fine. Still very tired but no major issues. Me n boys still isolating until tuesday midnight unless we show symptoms. Be careful please as this does screw you mentally somewhat. Onwards and upwards. I'm mentally screwed already after another month of lockdown. Glad to hear you're doing well. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Nov 20 1.51pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Onwards and upwards. I'm mentally screwed already after another month of lockdown. Glad to hear you're doing well.

Red and Blue Army!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Nov 20 1.54pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Thank you. He did not previously apply as he was lucky enough to have £6000 in savings, so therefore did not qualify ( maybe we are too honest and shouldn’t have divulged the savings!). These have now gone and therefore he has just applied, we await with anticipation. You are lucky to be able to walk/cycle locally. Our area is ok for such activities but my heart goes out to those in big towns/cities. Where cycling is probably more dangerous than Covid! I was surprised to read this so I looked up the limits. Apparently it's only when you, and/or your partner, have more than £16,000 that you don't qualify at all. Whether for the maximum I don't know but it must be worth reviewing. I fully understand how lucky we are here and how tough it is for those in the cities. There must though be some way to get some kind of exercise in the fresh(ish) air, without too much danger. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by Spiderman

Thank you. He did not previously apply as he was lucky enough to have £6000 in savings, so therefore did not qualify ( maybe we are too honest and shouldn’t have divulged the savings!). These have now gone and therefore he has just applied, we await with anticipation.
You are lucky to be able to walk/cycle locally. Our area is ok for such activities but my heart goes out to those in big towns/cities. Where cycling is probably more dangerous than Covid!

I was surprised to read this so I looked up the limits. Apparently it's only when you, and/or your partner, have more than £16,000 that you don't qualify at all. Whether for the maximum I don't know but it must be worth reviewing.

I fully understand how lucky we are here and how tough it is for those in the cities. There must though be some way to get some kind of exercise in the fresh(ish) air, without too much danger.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Nov 20 1.59pm
Originally posted by the silurian only a die hard Boris/Carrie fan would say this isnt a 'lockdown'.....its exactly that, just with a different name......Boris still lying his tits off!! Im still coming over for a big family Christmas, all this tier 1/2/3 is bollocks... I don't and I am not a fan of Johnson and have no opinion on his partner. As to the rest of your post, wonderful! Well done. It's this type of community spirit which will protect us all. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 29 Nov 20 1.59pm

Originally posted by the silurian

I don't and I am not a fan of Johnson and have no opinion on his partner.

As to the rest of your post, wonderful! Well done. It's this type of community spirit which will protect us all.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Nov 20 2.13pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle This is the point; lots of people don’t see any mitigation. In the Eighties many unemployed people went into the service industries which are now laying them off. This is why they are afraid - not of the virus but of how they’re going to get a job when this is finally over and their bills and mortgages still have to be paid. I understand the issue and so do, I think, the government, the MPs, the unions and trade associations. Support is being provided and is, so far as I can see, becoming more focussed. There will be casualties though as nothing will cover every eventuality. I know the Supreme Court were reviewing the refusal of the insurance companies to meet business interruption claims and don't know if that has yet been determined. If they are forced to pay up then everything gets better as we share the cost in increased renewal premiums. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 29 Nov 20 2.13pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This is the point; lots of people don’t see any mitigation. In the Eighties many unemployed people went into the service industries which are now laying them off. This is why they are afraid - not of the virus but of how they’re going to get a job when this is finally over and their bills and mortgages still have to be paid.

I understand the issue and so do, I think, the government, the MPs, the unions and trade associations. Support is being provided and is, so far as I can see, becoming more focussed. There will be casualties though as nothing will cover every eventuality. I know the Supreme Court were reviewing the refusal of the insurance companies to meet business interruption claims and don't know if that has yet been determined. If they are forced to pay up then everything gets better as we share the cost in increased renewal premiums.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 29 Nov 20 2.34pm
Adopting a Herod-type stance at Christmas, I think any infectious child should be killed and their dumb-@r5e parents too. Infection rates are already rising steadily in Secondary Schools I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 29 Nov 20 2.34pm

Adopting a Herod-type stance at Christmas, I think any infectious child should be killed and their dumb-@r5e parents too.
Infection rates are already rising steadily in Secondary Schools

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 20 2.39pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I understand the issue and so do, I think, the government, the MPs, the unions and trade associations. Support is being provided and is, so far as I can see, becoming more focussed. There will be casualties though as nothing will cover every eventuality. I know the Supreme Court were reviewing the refusal of the insurance companies to meet business interruption claims and don't know if that has yet been determined. If they are forced to pay up then everything gets better as we share the cost in increased renewal premiums. The industries in question often have no union, or if they do, are virtually useless. When have shop workers been defended by their union? It’ll be worse for anyone in the hospitality industries. They’re mostly well and truly stuffed unless they get more furlough, and after that? Then there’s small businesses that can’t survive either. COYP
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Caterham 29 Nov 20 2.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I understand the issue and so do, I think, the government, the MPs, the unions and trade associations. Support is being provided and is, so far as I can see, becoming more focussed. There will be casualties though as nothing will cover every eventuality. I know the Supreme Court were reviewing the refusal of the insurance companies to meet business interruption claims and don't know if that has yet been determined. If they are forced to pay up then everything gets better as we share the cost in increased renewal premiums.

The industries in question often have no union, or if they do, are virtually useless. When have shop workers been defended by their union? It’ll be worse for anyone in the hospitality industries. They’re mostly well and truly stuffed unless they get more furlough, and after that? Then there’s small businesses that can’t survive either.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 29 Nov 20 2.49pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Adopting a Herod-type stance at Christmas, I think any infectious child should be killed and their dumb-@r5e parents too. Infection rates are already rising steadily in Secondary Schools An interesting manifesto but if you have any hardline policies I should keep them quiet until after the election.
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29 Nov 20 2.49pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Adopting a Herod-type stance at Christmas, I think any infectious child should be killed and their dumb-@r5e parents too.
Infection rates are already rising steadily in Secondary Schools

An interesting manifesto but if you have any hardline policies I should keep them quiet until after the election.

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 29 Nov 20 2.52pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I don't and I am not a fan of Johnson and have no opinion on his partner. As to the rest of your post, wonderful! Well done. It's this type of community spirit which will protect us all. Yeah Ill be in Cornwall again, just near Truro!! Little place called Blackwater!! Edited by the silurian (29 Nov 2020 2.53pm)
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The garden of England.(not really) 29 Nov 20 2.52pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't and I am not a fan of Johnson and have no opinion on his partner.

As to the rest of your post, wonderful! Well done. It's this type of community spirit which will protect us all.

Yeah Ill be in Cornwall again, just near Truro!! Little place called Blackwater!!

Edited by the silurian (29 Nov 2020 2.53pm)

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