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 chris123  hove actually 08 Aug 17 4.11pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Only Germany contribute more than us in 2015 - both on a gross and net basis - so for me there is nothing I don't understand either on funding the EU or repatriating our law making or controlling our borders.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 4.17pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It's called intransigence. Old Thatcherites have it in spades as does anyone with strong ultra-views Left or Right. It was also their longed for protest vote which they will keep celebrating even when the economic lights have dimmed and the stench of insular sweat and what the fvck have we done? vomit have filled the emptying room. What are you waffling on about?! Kermit, you really need to take you hand out of your trousers when you're writing this stuff!
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| steeleye20 Croydon 08 Aug 17 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Only Germany contribute more than us in 2015 - both on a gross and net basis - so for me there is nothing I don't understand either on funding the EU or repatriating our law making or controlling our borders. Ok but what I am saying is that if you did understand that brexit was totally wrong you would still want it.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Aug 17 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I think this generally sums up the human condition (not specifically to brexit or remain) but that people really don't like to admit they got something wrong, and tend to find reasons to stick to their argument, rather than explore the possibility of being wrong. I think its basically, half of people, 25% on either side of an argument, would rather win than be right, which is a fundamental problem.
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| chris123 hove actually 08 Aug 17 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Only Germany contribute more than us in 2015 - both on a gross and net basis - so for me there is nothing I don't understand either on funding the EU or repatriating our law making or controlling our borders. Ok but what I am saying is that if you did understand that brexit was totally wrong you would still want it. I think I would be of the view that we should get on with it and be a democrat about the process.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Only Germany contribute more than us in 2015 - both on a gross and net basis - so for me there is nothing I don't understand either on funding the EU or repatriating our law making or controlling our borders. Ok but what I am saying is that if you did understand that brexit was totally wrong you would still want it. How many times does it have to be said. Brexit isn't purely about economics. We may or may not do better or worse...it will take time before any of us can be certain. It's about immigration and independence from an increasingly closer union. That's what the vast majority voted leave for.
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| chris123 hove actually 08 Aug 17 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think this generally sums up the human condition (not specifically to brexit or remain) but that people really don't like to admit they got something wrong, and tend to find reasons to stick to their argument, rather than explore the possibility of being wrong. I think its basically, half of people, 25% on either side of an argument, would rather win than be right, which is a fundamental problem. When it comes to politics though you just need to accept the majority view though surely?
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Kermit8  Hevon 08 Aug 17 4.43pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
When it comes to politics though you just need to accept the majority view though surely? Not really. Southern States and plenty in New York surprisingly (trade) didn't want slavery abolished.
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europalace  Europe 08 Aug 17 4.44pm |
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"Sterling hits 10-month low against euro Sterling hit a 10-month low against the euro after consumer spending fell for a third month in a row in July. "There is very little reason to be bullish about the British economy now and it is relatively cleaner to execute a short sterling trade against the euro against whom its economic fortunes have diverged completely," Jordan Rochester, an FX strategist at Nomura in London, said. Sterling fell to 90.87 pence against the euro, its lowest since October 2016, before recovering partially."
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Aug 17 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
When it comes to politics though you just need to accept the majority view though surely? Not if your are on the left; you just cling on to your outmoded, seen to fail time and again, socialist theories.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Not really. Southern States and plenty in New York surprisingly (trade) didn't want slavery abolished. Wasn't a president elected who did want it abolished?...So it was a majority....popular votes were more than double over his opponent. Without Lincoln....no war.
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| chris123 hove actually 08 Aug 17 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Not really. Southern States and plenty in New York surprisingly (trade) didn't want slavery abolished. Was the 13th Amendment passed by a majority in the House of Representatives?
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