We would. We would be powerless to stop it, once it had been passed into law by a Parliament determined to rely on a referendum for a stupid decision. Just as they did with Brexit despite their overall opposition to it. If our Representatives believe something is stupid then we really ought to expect them to do their job and not ask us to do it for them.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I would like another next year. This one on whether future referendums can only be held locally on local issues. Any issue affecting the UK as a whole to only be determined in Parliament.

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The JD want a 35% pay rise. If they settle for less after the GE then it suggests their striking is as much political as it is about money.

Starmer blustered when he was asked if he would agree to that figure.

One more point

Facts are important. The junior doctor claim their pay has declined in real terms by 35% over the last 14 years so want that made up.
Clearly that is a starting point in negotiations. I don't think anyone expects 35% to be paid in total and also in one go. In fact they have repeatedly said they are happy to negotiate.

The Tory Govt have played hard ball with negotiations and i think have offered c5%.

I suspect maybe 6 or 7% for the next 2 or 3 years will be acceptable. So maybe 20% increase over the next 3 years.

Clearly the NHS will never get waiting lists down without JDs working and these guys are actually very cheap in relation to fully qualified consultants (most of whom only work 1 or 2 days a week in the NHS BTW) this clearly needs to be resolved.

But the whole premise of your observation is flawed - you've already concluded that "If they settle for less after the GE then it suggests their striking is as much political as it is about money."

We all know they're going to settle for less than 35%, which is clearly the 'opening offer' from the unions.

In every wage dispute the settlement is less than the initial demand from the union - you can't just invent your own conclusions about what that means.

No word of JD pay rise costed into manifesto so presumably nothing for them.......unless

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.