This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
PJEagle London 12 Apr 23 7.59pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
I dont see now we can risk going into the unknown again, its too much of a gamble, stick with Roy and Ray for at least half of the season, dont sell any key players until January, and try to either get Paddy or Powell or someone Roy likes so Roy and Ray lay the fundamentals until the person is ready, even McArthur, a new untried man with a different outlook and not much to spend is a recipe for disaster. I think you're right, Lanzo. Stay with Roy would be a good move, if we keep on playing the way we have. We havnt had much luck with new young managers. Give Roy another season!
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
beak croydon 12 Apr 23 8.27pm | |
---|---|
Can this thread be re-named ,The manager after Roy.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
esox lucius Deal 12 Apr 23 8.51pm | |
---|---|
Think we should sack Roy at the end of the season…………Then re employ him for the start of next season so we get the effect of the new manage bounce for the first 10 games.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Rachid Rachid Rachid 12 Apr 23 9.32pm | |
---|---|
There's no long term without a short term so if the rest of the season goes well and him and Ray want the job they should be left IMO. It looks as though they both try to teach players the game rather than FIFA.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Jacey 12 Apr 23 10.01pm | |
---|---|
X Originally posted by rikz
Who's next then, lampard, gerrard or Rooney I'd be fuming. If I had to guess then I'd say Postecoglou from Celtic. Need to keep Lampard away from Palace at all costs.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
taylors lovechild 13 Apr 23 7.54am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
I dont see now we can risk going into the unknown again, its too much of a gamble, stick with Roy and Ray for at least half of the season, dont sell any key players until January, and try to either get Paddy or Powell or someone Roy likes so Roy and Ray lay the fundamentals until the person is ready, even McArthur, a new untried man with a different outlook and not much to spend is a recipe for disaster. The thing is, I see Roy as a bit of an unknown, as daft as that may sound. For at least two years of his reign the football was hard to watch at times. His last season was painful and we were very lucky with some of the results. Now, the unknown part is was that due to the squad, or due to his management. By the end of his tenure he was looking increasingly tired and lost and his subs became more puzzling and he seemingly had no plan B. Are those things going to resurface when we hit a bad patch (which we always will at some point in the season)? His age is a factor because at Watford and at the end of his tenure with us he looked like an old man short on energy. I would prefer he goes out on a high rather than limp out like he did last time. He's done a lot for the club and I'd rather he gets a happy ending. Of course, if we keep winning the pressure will be on Parish to keep him on and if he does I hope we reach new highs, but I think we have to be careful to place too much credit on two wins against two poor teams.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
southnorwoodhill 13 Apr 23 8.24am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by taylors lovechild
The thing is, I see Roy as a bit of an unknown, as daft as that may sound. For at least two years of his reign the football was hard to watch at times. His last season was painful and we were very lucky with some of the results. Now, the unknown part is was that due to the squad, or due to his management. By the end of his tenure he was looking increasingly tired and lost and his subs became more puzzling and he seemingly had no plan B. Are those things going to resurface when we hit a bad patch (which we always will at some point in the season)? His age is a factor because at Watford and at the end of his tenure with us he looked like an old man short on energy. I would prefer he goes out on a high rather than limp out like he did last time. He's done a lot for the club and I'd rather he gets a happy ending. Of course, if we keep winning the pressure will be on Parish to keep him on and if he does I hope we reach new highs, but I think we have to be careful to place too much credit on two wins against two poor teams. A classic understatement. Roy's final two seasons produced the worst football ever seen at Selhurst Park, far worse than that which PV produced this season. "Oh but Roy kept us up, that was all he had to do" say the Roy fan club. True. And if that is the level we aim for, then make it so. Edited by southnorwoodhill (13 Apr 2023 8.38am)
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 13 Apr 23 8.27am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by taylors lovechild
The thing is, I see Roy as a bit of an unknown, as daft as that may sound. For at least two years of his reign the football was hard to watch at times. His last season was painful and we were very lucky with some of the results. Now, the unknown part is was that due to the squad, or due to his management. By the end of his tenure he was looking increasingly tired and lost and his subs became more puzzling and he seemingly had no plan B. Are those things going to resurface when we hit a bad patch (which we always will at some point in the season)? His age is a factor because at Watford and at the end of his tenure with us he looked like an old man short on energy. I would prefer he goes out on a high rather than limp out like he did last time. He's done a lot for the club and I'd rather he gets a happy ending. Of course, if we keep winning the pressure will be on Parish to keep him on and if he does I hope we reach new highs, but I think we have to be careful to place too much credit on two wins against two poor teams. I understand what you are saying, but what is the alternative, who would you get or would want to come, no 120m purse will be available to the new manager, 20m at the most i suspect.
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Jacey 13 Apr 23 8.40am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
A classic understatement. Roy's final two seasons produced the worst football ever seen at Selhurst Park, far worse than that which PV produced this season. "Oh but Roy kept us up, that was all he had to do" say the Roy fan club. True. And if that is the level we aim for, then make it so. Edited by southnorwoodhill (13 Apr 2023 8.38am) Possibly Cooper,assuming he is sacked when Forest go down or Rogers,both have the experience ?? Edited by Jacey (13 Apr 2023 8.41am)
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
taylors lovechild 13 Apr 23 8.49am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
I understand what you are saying, but what is the alternative, who would you get or would want to come, no 120m purse will be available to the new manager, 20m at the most i suspect. Well that is the 100 million dollar question! The number of managers who have been sacked this season show how hard it is to get it right. The margins between success and failure seem to get ever smaller (eg last second equaliser for Brentford, last second winner against Leicester for us) so that you have to look beneath the results and decide what the true picture is. I imagine it is both an exciting and stressful job to pick the next manager. Despite my reservations I think what it may come down to is whether there is an obvious candidate Parish and the board like and if not they'll keep Roy. I don't think they'll risk an inexperienced manager again, but who knows.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Apr 23 8.49am | |
---|---|
Is it impossible to appoint somebody that occupies the space between the old guard (Pulis, Allardyce, Hodgson) and the untested idealists (FdB, Vieira)? For my two cents I think we need someone who knows the league, understands the expectations and demands, yet can get the most out of our players and push us to be more competitive beyond just keeping our heads above water. I am not a fan however Rodgers does seem most fitting there but must be some other options surely? If not, at best, I can see us continuing to swing the pendulum from one extreme end to the other - bring in an untested, fanciful manager and when they fail bring in the old blood and guts, steady but boring type to just keep us safe so the dream of a new horizon remains in existence.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Apr 23 9.01am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by taylors lovechild
Well that is the 100 million dollar question! The number of managers who have been sacked this season show how hard it is to get it right. The margins between success and failure seem to get ever smaller (eg last second equaliser for Brentford, last second winner against Leicester for us) so that you have to look beneath the results and decide what the true picture is. I imagine it is both an exciting and stressful job to pick the next manager. Despite my reservations I think what it may come down to is whether there is an obvious candidate Parish and the board like and if not they'll keep Roy. I don't think they'll risk an inexperienced manager again, but who knows. Mr Hodgson might have no desire to continue.Football management at this level is very demanding, he will be 76 at the start of next season and I suspect that at his time of life short-term assignments are quite appealing.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Registration is now on our new message board
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.