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PJEagle Flag London 12 Apr 23 7.59pm Send a Private Message to PJEagle Add PJEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I dont see now we can risk going into the unknown again, its too much of a gamble, stick with Roy and Ray for at least half of the season, dont sell any key players until January, and try to either get Paddy or Powell or someone Roy likes so Roy and Ray lay the fundamentals until the person is ready, even McArthur, a new untried man with a different outlook and not much to spend is a recipe for disaster.

I think you're right, Lanzo. Stay with Roy would be a good move, if we keep on playing the way we have. We havnt had much luck with new young managers. Give Roy another season!

 

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beak Flag croydon 12 Apr 23 8.27pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Can this thread be re-named ,The manager after Roy.

 

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esox lucius Flag Deal 12 Apr 23 8.51pm Send a Private Message to esox lucius Add esox lucius as a friend

Think we should sack Roy at the end of the season…………Then re employ him for the start of next season so we get the effect of the new manage bounce for the first 10 games.

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 12 Apr 23 9.32pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

There's no long term without a short term so if the rest of the season goes well and him and Ray want the job they should be left IMO.

It looks as though they both try to teach players the game rather than FIFA.

 

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Jacey Flag 12 Apr 23 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

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Originally posted by rikz

Who's next then, lampard, gerrard or Rooney I'd be fuming. If I had to guess then I'd say Postecoglou from Celtic.

Need to keep Lampard away from Palace at all costs.
Great player,useless manager,who has done nothing other than to continue Chelsea's losing habit,started with such enthusiasm for failure by Potter.

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 13 Apr 23 7.54am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I dont see now we can risk going into the unknown again, its too much of a gamble, stick with Roy and Ray for at least half of the season, dont sell any key players until January, and try to either get Paddy or Powell or someone Roy likes so Roy and Ray lay the fundamentals until the person is ready, even McArthur, a new untried man with a different outlook and not much to spend is a recipe for disaster.

The thing is, I see Roy as a bit of an unknown, as daft as that may sound. For at least two years of his reign the football was hard to watch at times. His last season was painful and we were very lucky with some of the results. Now, the unknown part is was that due to the squad, or due to his management. By the end of his tenure he was looking increasingly tired and lost and his subs became more puzzling and he seemingly had no plan B. Are those things going to resurface when we hit a bad patch (which we always will at some point in the season)? His age is a factor because at Watford and at the end of his tenure with us he looked like an old man short on energy. I would prefer he goes out on a high rather than limp out like he did last time. He's done a lot for the club and I'd rather he gets a happy ending. Of course, if we keep winning the pressure will be on Parish to keep him on and if he does I hope we reach new highs, but I think we have to be careful to place too much credit on two wins against two poor teams.

 

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southnorwoodhill Flag 13 Apr 23 8.24am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

The thing is, I see Roy as a bit of an unknown, as daft as that may sound. For at least two years of his reign the football was hard to watch at times. His last season was painful and we were very lucky with some of the results. Now, the unknown part is was that due to the squad, or due to his management. By the end of his tenure he was looking increasingly tired and lost and his subs became more puzzling and he seemingly had no plan B. Are those things going to resurface when we hit a bad patch (which we always will at some point in the season)? His age is a factor because at Watford and at the end of his tenure with us he looked like an old man short on energy. I would prefer he goes out on a high rather than limp out like he did last time. He's done a lot for the club and I'd rather he gets a happy ending. Of course, if we keep winning the pressure will be on Parish to keep him on and if he does I hope we reach new highs, but I think we have to be careful to place too much credit on two wins against two poor teams.

A classic understatement. Roy's final two seasons produced the worst football ever seen at Selhurst Park, far worse than that which PV produced this season. "Oh but Roy kept us up, that was all he had to do" say the Roy fan club. True. And if that is the level we aim for, then make it so.
Cold fact is that we are back where we started from when Roy took over from FdB.
A tough choice for the board to bring in the right person / persons with some sort of 3/4/5 year plan of how to take this to the next level, if such a thing is possible. And by "next level" I mean the modest attainment of 50 points, and not looking at the likelihood of possible relegation every season.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (13 Apr 2023 8.38am)

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 13 Apr 23 8.27am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

The thing is, I see Roy as a bit of an unknown, as daft as that may sound. For at least two years of his reign the football was hard to watch at times. His last season was painful and we were very lucky with some of the results. Now, the unknown part is was that due to the squad, or due to his management. By the end of his tenure he was looking increasingly tired and lost and his subs became more puzzling and he seemingly had no plan B. Are those things going to resurface when we hit a bad patch (which we always will at some point in the season)? His age is a factor because at Watford and at the end of his tenure with us he looked like an old man short on energy. I would prefer he goes out on a high rather than limp out like he did last time. He's done a lot for the club and I'd rather he gets a happy ending. Of course, if we keep winning the pressure will be on Parish to keep him on and if he does I hope we reach new highs, but I think we have to be careful to place too much credit on two wins against two poor teams.

I understand what you are saying, but what is the alternative, who would you get or would want to come, no 120m purse will be available to the new manager, 20m at the most i suspect.

 


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Jacey Flag 13 Apr 23 8.40am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

A classic understatement. Roy's final two seasons produced the worst football ever seen at Selhurst Park, far worse than that which PV produced this season. "Oh but Roy kept us up, that was all he had to do" say the Roy fan club. True. And if that is the level we aim for, then make it so.
Cold fact is that we are back where we started from when Roy took over from FdB.
A tough choice for the board to bring in the right person / persons with some sort of 3/4/5 year plan of how to take this to the next level, if such a thing is possible. And by "next level" I mean the modest attainment of 50 points, and not looking at the likelihood of possible relegation every season.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (13 Apr 2023 8.38am)

Possibly Cooper,assuming he is sacked when Forest go down or Rogers,both have the experience ??

Edited by Jacey (13 Apr 2023 8.41am)

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 13 Apr 23 8.49am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I understand what you are saying, but what is the alternative, who would you get or would want to come, no 120m purse will be available to the new manager, 20m at the most i suspect.

Well that is the 100 million dollar question! The number of managers who have been sacked this season show how hard it is to get it right. The margins between success and failure seem to get ever smaller (eg last second equaliser for Brentford, last second winner against Leicester for us) so that you have to look beneath the results and decide what the true picture is. I imagine it is both an exciting and stressful job to pick the next manager.

Despite my reservations I think what it may come down to is whether there is an obvious candidate Parish and the board like and if not they'll keep Roy. I don't think they'll risk an inexperienced manager again, but who knows.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Apr 23 8.49am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Is it impossible to appoint somebody that occupies the space between the old guard (Pulis, Allardyce, Hodgson) and the untested idealists (FdB, Vieira)?

For my two cents I think we need someone who knows the league, understands the expectations and demands, yet can get the most out of our players and push us to be more competitive beyond just keeping our heads above water. I am not a fan however Rodgers does seem most fitting there but must be some other options surely?

If not, at best, I can see us continuing to swing the pendulum from one extreme end to the other - bring in an untested, fanciful manager and when they fail bring in the old blood and guts, steady but boring type to just keep us safe so the dream of a new horizon remains in existence.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Apr 23 9.01am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Well that is the 100 million dollar question! The number of managers who have been sacked this season show how hard it is to get it right. The margins between success and failure seem to get ever smaller (eg last second equaliser for Brentford, last second winner against Leicester for us) so that you have to look beneath the results and decide what the true picture is. I imagine it is both an exciting and stressful job to pick the next manager.

Despite my reservations I think what it may come down to is whether there is an obvious candidate Parish and the board like and if not they'll keep Roy. I don't think they'll risk an inexperienced manager again, but who knows.

Mr Hodgson might have no desire to continue.Football management at this level is very demanding, he will be 76 at the start of next season and I suspect that at his time of life short-term assignments are quite appealing.

 

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