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 Spiderman  Horsham 20 May 21 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yup disgusting and then the former BBC DG covered it up. How many more scandals do we have to out up with from this lot. Luckily Bashir managed to resign, presumably on full pension, the day this was published
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| Matov 20 May 21 8.31pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Luckily Bashir managed to resign, presumably on full pension, the day this was published The first of many. Suspect that we are moving into another arena when it comes to the demise of the BBC with this incident probably being seen as perhaps the actual fatal blow. An absolutely shocking inditement for a national broadcaster. Would have been bad enough for a commercial organisation but one that is dependent on a compulsory charge? The BBC has been a dead man walking for a while now but this will potentially hole it beneath the water-line now. An argument will be made that this interview led to Diana being in that tunnel in Paris. Now you can poke all kinds of holes in that, and with some justification, if you want to but in terms of the BBC trying to defend itself from the accusation, it is left utterly defenceless. It simply cannot protect itself from the deluge of crap about to hit it and the reverberations from this are up there with Saville. Potentially even more.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 20 May 21 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Luckily Bashir managed to resign, presumably on full pension, the day this was published Yup BBC still covering up they gave him a way out.
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BlueJay  UK 20 May 21 11.44pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Luckily Bashir managed to resign, presumably on full pension, the day this was published Yeah, what a joke. And you've got to laugh at his 'apology' followed by saying that it had no bearing whatsoever on her choice to do the interview (how the hell would he know), and how 'proud' he was of it. A sleazy character from beginning to end.
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| Stirlingsays 20 May 21 11.49pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yup BBC still covering up they gave him a way out. I imagine the reason they have have allowed him a soft landing is due to what he knows on complicity.
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| DanH SW2 21 May 21 2.41pm |
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Amol Rajan really good on the damage of this on the BBC. [Tweet Link]
As damaging as it is I’m not sure some of the other parts of the press and characters coming out and having a pop can really take the moral high ground after their treatment of Diana and now repeating the trick with Harry.
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| Stirlingsays 21 May 21 3.10pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
As damaging as it is I’m not sure some of the other parts of the press and characters coming out and having a pop can really take the moral high ground after their treatment of Diana and now repeating the trick with Harry. While the press were quite awful in their treatment with Diana it must also be said that she made quite bad decisions herself that as a public figure will always be open to criticism and ultimately led her down unwise paths. Also it can be noted that she was quite happy using the media when it suited her. The same can be said for Harry. When it comes to the BBC, the big difference is that they are funded by enforced public subscription....which is deliberately and unfairly made difficult to get out of. Whereas if you don't like some rag paper you can quite easily not buy it.
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| Matov 21 May 21 4.58pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When it comes to the BBC, the big difference is that they are funded by enforced public subscription....which is deliberately and unfairly made difficult to get out of. Whereas if you don't like some rag paper you can quite easily not buy it.
The crucial factor in all of this. The old News of the World was a tabolid. Infamous for all kinds of stunts. And yet over the phone hacking scandal, gets closed down. No tears shed. But the BBC? From listening/reading more deeply into this, it is crystal clear that the BBC has to be put out its misery sooner rather than later. My understanding is that the BBC KNEW that Bashir had pulled this stunt prior to their appointing him, in 2016, as their chief religious and ethics correspondent. Seriously, WTF? Its over. Dead in the f***ing water in its current form. You might be able to make a case that what happened last century cannot be laid at the door of the BBC today and with some justification. But knowing what they did and yet still giving him a job in 2016 in that role? Its done. Over. Needs putting down.
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| Stirlingsays 21 May 21 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The crucial factor in all of this. The old News of the World was a tabolid. Infamous for all kinds of stunts. And yet over the phone hacking scandal, gets closed down. No tears shed. But the BBC? From listening/reading more deeply into this, it is crystal clear that the BBC has to be put out its misery sooner rather than later. My understanding is that the BBC KNEW that Bashir had pulled this stunt prior to their appointing him, in 2016, as their chief religious and ethics correspondent. Seriously, WTF? Its over. Dead in the f***ing water in its current form. You might be able to make a case that what happened last century cannot be laid at the door of the BBC today and with some justification. But knowing what they did and yet still giving him a job in 2016 in that role? Its done. Over. Needs putting down. Edited by Matov (21 May 2021 5.03pm) The BBC is very useful to the elite class, not only as an old boy network but also to distribute their propaganda. The conservatives could have made drastic reforms to the BBC many times over the years but it's yet another one of those topics where they complain and make a big play to their grass roots while supporting and signing the BBC contractual subscription model as they did only the other year. You'll get the usual virtue signaling and the dismayed statements and warnings but I predict nothing concrete will actually be done that changes anything. This is how the game is played.
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| Matov 21 May 21 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This is how the game is played. I suspect you are right but this puts the BBC on life-support now. The vast majority of people would love to be free of the burden of the TV licence. Am convinced that the idea of offering a referendum on defunding the BBC is an election winner. You know the Left would never suggest it but for the Tories, if the polls turn against them, then it is a weapon in its armoury. But its future as a credible news organisation is now beyond a joke. Nobody will take it seriously now. Panorama has to go, at the very least.
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| cryrst The garden of England 21 May 21 7.25pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
I suspect you are right but this puts the BBC on life-support now. The vast majority of people would love to be free of the burden of the TV licence. Am convinced that the idea of offering a referendum on defunding the BBC is an election winner. You know the Left would never suggest it but for the Tories, if the polls turn against them, then it is a weapon in its armoury. But its future as a credible news organisation is now beyond a joke. Nobody will take it seriously now. Panorama has to go, at the very least. But c'mon they must have another everyone's racist
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 21 May 21 7.41pm |
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the fact the Tories seem to never kick the BBC into touch ? it is confirmation that the Tories are part of the problem.
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