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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Apr 17 9.17pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I was merely saying there isn't much diversity there. Not playing the race card. In a diverse area you'd expect a little bit of diversity.

The fact that a white middle class bloke worries about such things is very weird.

Perhaps it's because they are in a white minority in that area.
Being a Labour voter, you should know how minorities stick together.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Apr 2017 9.20pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Apr 17 9.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Hahaha! When I lived and grew up in a 'diverse' area....also known as Stockwell in the early eighties actually large sections of different groups pretty much didn't mix much. Not if they had an option.

Still, you must know better Nick eh?

Still waiting on your immigration policy btw.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Apr 2017 8.52pm)

Build a new town just outside of wisbech and move british undesirables there. Then those pesky foreigners won't seem so bad.

 

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davenotamonkey Flag 25 Apr 17 10.39pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle


I don't think there should be any evidence. You just claimed that we were out there right now negotiating deals and countries were queuing up to sign them. I simply asked what evidence there was of this as I'd seen none.

In terms of evidence of desire of other countries to do deals I've seen plenty of articles saying Boris or some other politician has claimed that, but no actual details, just hot air.

In terms of my south american, you're right it would be much better for us to be able to negotiate individual agreements as we'd be in a stronger position than if we had to negotiate with the entire continent as we'd then be in a weaker position relatively. We'd have to make more concessions. The flip side would be having access to the entire continent and not just a single member.

If indeed other countries are queuing up it's not to do us a favour. They will be seeing it as a chance to take advantage of our new situation and secure a better deal for themselves than they could have got with the EU. This won't necessarily be a reciprocally better agreement.

Also free movement of capital is much more damaging than free movement of labour, and that's what you want us to move towards.

When you're in an abusive threatening relationship, you don't go bragging about the new squeeze. Otherwise nasty things happen:

[Link]

It's a real problem when your other half is an obsessive control freak.

But you're right. An entire government department was set up to secure international trade deals, but your blind hated of "duh tohrees" is telling you they're sitting on their arses doing nothing. You're desperate to believe that. We can't be successful! And certainly not with ACTUAL nazis in charge.

A mere month after the referendum result, 27 countries had in some form expressed interest in establishing bilateral trade links. I'd wager there are now many more.

[Link]

But yeah, you're right: they're just out to get what they want - they don't care about us! (Because trade deals are not a series of negotiations and concessions). They don't care about us like the EU does. If only we'd come back! They just overreacted that one time. They won't do it again. They just like a drink! They miss us (well, our huge contribution to their budget).

I will defer to Occam's Razor and make the logical assumption that the government ministry set up to pursue international trade deals is currently doing so. Do I want them shouting about it when we're still living under the same roof as the jealous control freak? No. Trump and May have already signed a deal that commences trade negotiations. I don't doubt many other agreements are also in place. I'd rather not many more details come out until the EU penchant for pett punitive action can no longer be applied to us.

Sooner we're out, the better.

The question (pursuant to this thread) is whether we want the Conservatives to lead these long-lasting trade deals, or a party the sodding UK Communist party now sees fit to rally behind. No. Brainer.

 

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davenotamonkey Flag 25 Apr 17 10.45pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The EU had the chance to put protections in place before this point. Instead they waited to see what damage people from the left could do to the negotiation position instead. Clear as bloody day to anyone who wasn't bending over for the EU and couldn't look up to see....How's your back Kermy?

Doing anything unilaterally is sheer stupidity in most negotiations and assumes that the other side won't take advantage or is 'ethical' for the sake of being 'ethical'.

It shows you why so many on the 'progressive' left are completely unsuitable for grown up politics or indeed running anything in the real world.

...God only knows what damage they'd do if they were conducting our international trade deals.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Apr 17 10.51pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

When you're in an abusive threatening relationship, you don't go bragging about the new squeeze. Otherwise nasty things happen:

[Link]

It's a real problem when your other half is an obsessive control freak.

But you're right. An entire government department was set up to secure international trade deals, but your blind hated of "duh tohrees" is telling you they're sitting on their arses doing nothing. You're desperate to believe that. We can't be successful! And certainly not with ACTUAL nazis in charge.

A mere month after the referendum result, 27 countries had in some form expressed interest in establishing bilateral trade links. I'd wager there are now many more.

[Link]

But yeah, you're right: they're just out to get what they want - they don't care about us! (Because trade deals are not a series of negotiations and concessions). They don't care about us like the EU does. If only we'd come back! They just overreacted that one time. They won't do it again. They just like a drink! They miss us (well, our huge contribution to their budget).

I will defer to Occam's Razor and make the logical assumption that the government ministry set up to pursue international trade deals is currently doing so. Do I want them shouting about it when we're still living under the same roof as the jealous control freak? No. Trump and May have already signed a deal that commences trade negotiations. I don't doubt many other agreements are also in place. I'd rather not many more details come out until the EU penchant for pett punitive action can no longer be applied to us.

Sooner we're out, the better.

The question (pursuant to this thread) is whether we want the Conservatives to lead these long-lasting trade deals, or a party the sodding UK Communist party now sees fit to rally behind. No. Brainer.

All 700 of them?

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Apr 17 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


[Link]
Tory chairman being found out about tax levels in the UK.

Contrary to economic folklore, the Conservative government is on course to raise taxes to their highest level in 30 years. And back in 1987, Margaret Thatcher was in power.

Left-Wing "Project Fear".


 

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davenotamonkey Flag 25 Apr 17 11.04pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

All 700 of them?

Irrelevant. In 97 years, they haven't seen sufficient convergence between a mainstream party and their Marxist ideals. Until now. Tells you more about "Dear Leader" and his party than it does them.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Apr 17 11.05pm

Originally posted by Willo

Left-Wing "Project Fear".


Andrew Neil? Now that is funny. Did you watch the interview?

Edited by nickgusset (25 Apr 2017 11.08pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Apr 17 11.07pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Irrelevant. In 97 years, they haven't seen sufficient convergence between a mainstream party and their Marxist ideals. Until now. Tells you more about "Dear Leader" and his party than it does them.

TUSC have chosen to go with labour as well. Bob Crowe will be happy.

Makes me chuckle when Corbyn is reckoned to be far left with his democratic socialism.

 

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davenotamonkey Flag 25 Apr 17 11.10pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I was merely saying there isn't much diversity there. Not playing the race card. In a diverse area you'd expect a little bit of diversity.

Yes. This is much better. Don't worry, the women will be in another room. Probably. This diverse enough for you? Plenty more where that came from...

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davenotamonkey Flag 25 Apr 17 11.13pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Yes. This is much better. Don't worry, the women will be in another room. Probably. This diverse enough for you? Plenty more where that came from...

Phew, found the women. Emergency over. They were just segregated. Thanks Labour.

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 25 Apr 17 11.19pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Most of the Benagali's I know wouldn't be associated with that rag tag mob (The Labour Party) they are dye in the wool free market entrepreneurs like myself.
Less government. Less red tape.

 


Pro USA & Israel

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