Apparently Covid still spreads through the generations to the older people whatever we do unless we lockdown but during this time flu does not. I’m not buying it either. The same will be happening as in spring. Misreporting.

COYP

I think at the time the thinking was a vaccine would not be ready this year.

They knew it was a legitimate policy but got scared by the media and then social media so decided they could follow China and ‘lockdown.’

Cue political expediency.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Nov 2020 9.55am)

COYP

Interesting that one or two or you perhaps feel similarly to me about it.

It's a tricky stance to take because suggesting that the pandemic is being overblown, or is perhaps even over, to someone who might have lost a loved one to it inevitably can come across as insensitive. I'm just very concerned that we are destroying our economy and sleepwalking in a far more severe period of austerity based on misinformation.

I'm not denying the initial impact of Coronavirus or even that it still lives among us, I merely believe that we have huge issues when it comes to categorising Covid deaths (classing anyone who has died of any reason as a Covid death if they have tested positive within 28 days) coupled with a testing system that is highly faulty. These are clearly problematic when seismic decisions affecting the economy and people's lives are being made.

From what I understand, the PCR test was never designed to be the front line of testing for a disease, it was supposed to offer confirmation once a clinical diagnosis had already been made. It was also supposed to be carried out in a controlled lab environment, not on an industrial scale in giant testing centres before being transported in huge batches around the country.

Supposedly, the test is known to produce an absolute minimum of 2% false positives, or 20,000 for every 1,000,000 tests carried out. When you add in the potential for cross contamination from the sheer industrial scale in which the tests are now being carried out, it becomes a guessing game as to how high that number actually is. Especially as the government have thus far refused to give a figure.

Interestingly the Portuguese Court of Appeal have now ruled that the PCR test “is unable to determine, beyond reasonable doubt, that a positive result corresponds, in fact, to the infection of a person by the SARS-CoV-2 virus”. You can read about that here: [Link]

Another development which I notedwith interest was that John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology at Stanford University, has published a paper stating that our initial predictions surrounding the death rate of this virus, and therefore our reaction to it, were wildly overegged. That paper has actually been peer reviewed now and was published by the WHO as a result. I can't share a link but if you Google 'John Ioannidis WHO paper' it's the top result.

Edited by Canterbury Palace (28 Nov 2020 10.59am)

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Are you talking seasonal flu or COVID?

I have no idea if seasonal flu is down but suppose it would stand to reason due to the preventative measures everyone has been taking. My point really was that in an average year it takes 4-5 months for flu to sweep the country.

The first Covid case was detected in the UK on January 31st meaning it was allowed to sweep the country for two months, half of the typical flu season, before lockdown was introduced.

Even if you only account for those two months, if we are to believe that this thing is twice as infectious as flu, how can less than 10% of the country have been infected?

It doesn't add up and that's not even accounting for the eight months since.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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