The only interpretation that can be taken of this latest government science led shambles is that there is zero confidence in the public generally to behave in a rationale manner. So, even though it’s youngsters in the majority that run riot and have raves, illegal parties and dance in the street after closing simply because they can, the rest of us are punished because the virus is spreading in all age groups.

Anyone thought that the kids mixing in schools and the young adults partying perhaps bring it home and spread to parents who then inadvertently spread to grandparents etc etc.

You can be as safe as possible by following all the guidance, not doing this and not doing that and putting up without a pint but have no control over those who spread it asymptomatically.

This is why the closure of pubs without meals and all of the other bull associated with it is such nonsense. If you want to have a real impact close down all schools and colleges for December keep the kids apart and everyone go about their social distancing and sensible use of the hospitality industry before it collapses entirely.

The only interpretation that can be taken of this latest government science led shambles is that there is zero confidence in the public generally to behave in a rationale manner. So, even though it’s youngsters in the majority that run riot and have raves, illegal parties and dance in the street after closing simply because they can, the rest of us are punished because the virus is spreading in all age groups.

Anyone thought that the kids mixing in schools and the young adults partying perhaps bring it home and spread to parents who then inadvertently spread to grandparents etc etc.

You can be as safe as possible by following all the guidance, not doing this and not doing that and putting up without a pint but have no control over those who spread it asymptomatically.

This is why the closure of pubs without meals and all of the other bull associated with it is such nonsense. If you want to have a real impact close down all schools and colleges for December keep the kids apart and everyone go about their social distancing and sensible use of the hospitality industry before it collapses entirely.

The majority of people, intentionally or unintentionally are morons, so I can sympathise with the government to some extent here.

I agree with this re. it's ridiculous that the whole of Kent should suffer because of a part of its population being complete bell ends. However it is simply far too complex to start sub dividing the country into thousands of tiny portions each with its own tier. People switch off at this level so I'm not sure how you'd expect them to follow that sort of complexity. And the amount of admin and red tape that would go with it for the government... unviable.

Just have to deal with it. There is no good solution. Certainly not one that complex anyway.

It has been suggested it would have been far more sensible to divide the country up into district council areas and I have warmed to this idea.

I’ve just edited my post. Slough is the only town/borough in tier 3 in the whole of the south apart from Kent. Yet Swale and Thanet cause Kent to have all establishments closed.