Simon Webb 'History Debunked' has discussed how their large religious congregations need bouncers. Because a fisticuffs often happens among the faithful. Sober crowd violence, which is perhaps a new phenomenon to the UK.

Not exactly like Songs of Praise at Canterbury.

And i guess it doesn't count as Sectarian violence when all the participants are from the same Sect ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Aug 2024 1.29pm)

I spent a few hours earlier with a couple of my bowling friends, both retired. One an ex policeman, who was at Hungerford and the miner’s strikes, the other a software engineer.

Both made interesting observations about the current situation. The ex policeman said that dealing with unrest is now much harder than it was in his day, because everyone has a camera and every move is recorded. Both by their bodycams and by those causing the unrest, who thrust cameras at the police whilst goading them. He expressed sympathy for the officer at Manchester airport and also said that in the USA the police would just shoot a few of them, whilst in Europe many would be given a beating and no questions would be asked.

The software engineer said he thinks that social media is producing mental health issues for teenagers, where they both get fed misinformation and suffer abuse that they cannot handle.

I suspect there is some truth in both of these, but how we overcome them isn’t straightforward. Putting stronger obligations on the social media companies seems urgently needed, but will be loudly resisted. Outright bans on any provider which refuses to moderate unacceptable content effectively must be done.

You both needn't worry too much. This government will definitely be introducing censorship and curbing civil liberties. They will probably be heralded by the media - such is the double speaking nature of it these days. You can then bask in your bowls glory knowing that more of the majority population - or morons and thugs as you describe them - can be coerced to live by your ideology. Job done. You should have been labour all along.

I spent a few hours earlier with a couple of my bowling friends, both retired. One an ex policeman, who was at Hungerford and the miner’s strikes, the other a software engineer.

Both made interesting observations about the current situation. The ex policeman said that dealing with unrest is now much harder than it was in his day, because everyone has a camera and every move is recorded. Both by their bodycams and by those causing the unrest, who thrust cameras at the police whilst goading them. He expressed sympathy for the officer at Manchester airport and also said that in the USA the police would just shoot a few of them, whilst in Europe many would be given a beating and no questions would be asked.

The software engineer said he thinks that social media is producing mental health issues for teenagers, where they both get fed misinformation and suffer abuse that they cannot handle.

I suspect there is some truth in both of these, but how we overcome them isn’t straightforward. Putting stronger obligations on the social media companies seems urgently needed, but will be loudly resisted. Outright bans on any provider which refuses to moderate unacceptable content effectively must be done.

You both needn't worry too much. This government will definitely be introducing censorship and curbing civil liberties. They will probably be heralded by the media - such is the double speaking nature of it these days. You can then bask in your bowls glory knowing that more of the majority population - or morons and thugs as you describe them - can be coerced to live by your ideology. Job done. You should have been labour all along.