Those stupid and ill informed enough to not even know when a crucial vote is suggests they have no clue about the arguments- they've probably made up their minds because they 'don't want any more foreigners here' and will ignore any facts, on both sides.

I'm not saying you're wrong, merely that it's depressing such muppets could make a difference!

Back up you mean

Kerm you are still well and truly owned.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

“There’s absolutely no connection between the peace process and the European Union ... I think this is just scaremongering.”

“Well, nobody’s actually spelt out [the alleged threat to peace] – they go around saying it would cause a problem, but they haven’t said how it would cause a problem.

“I do not see that there is a problem, and I’d love to see people pointing out just what the difficulty is.

“I think it’s just grabbing at anything they can find to try and make an argument.”

-- Lord David Trimble, former First Minister of Northern Ireland, Chairman of the Good Friday Agreement, recipient of the Nobel peace prize for his important role in the GFA negotiations.

I think these quotes epitomise the Remain campaign in a nutshell: non-specific threats and scaremongering, fear of what "might" happen based on either clear misinformation or selective reporting of events (as was very evident in the taxpayer-funded "leaflet".

Not voting the way I want? No, I'm merely saying it's depressing that such ignorant people, regardless of where they stand on the political spectrum (and there will be plenty on left, right and central!) or whether they will vote in or out, can (and probably will) have such a big say.

Basically, the silly, uninformed people who have made their minds up- either way- based on half truths, fear, what some bloke down the pub said, what the Sun or Mirror says, or what x politician who they sort of fancy said.

I know you're solidly right wing, Hoof, and no doubt will be voting Out. I'm left leaning, and will be voting In. I have no doubt you have considered the various arguments before making your choice- I know I have. Sad to say, a dozen 'muppets' will probably turn up on polling day and completely invalidate our votes!

That's the trouble with democracy though- everyone has a say, even the muppets

Edited by leifandersonshair (07 May 2016 7.42pm)

With respect, and i do have respect for Lord Trimble because of his deklerk moment in securing the peace, but your claim would have considerably more weight had it come from a nationalist source let alone the more hardline republicans.....but surely we can all see that if the EHRA is replaced with a BRITISH bill of rights this may cause issues and whilst its easy to say to republicans "tough luck we are still British" it just will not be acceptable.....and so all the sh@t starts again....this just seems naive to me

You know what Hoof, you are right, its all too irrelevant and tiresome for a sunday morning....i'm off to enjoy the sunshine and suggest you all do the same