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fed up eagle Flag Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 14 Aug 15 8.22pm Send a Private Message to fed up eagle Add fed up eagle as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 3.29pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Aug 2015 3.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 3.03pm

I don't think he's referring to you Stirling.

No, I didn't think so either.....I genuinely don't know what's occurred and the thread is so big now I'm almost scared to read it beyond the last few pages.

I quite like Nick....Something must have rattled his cage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2015 3.19pm)


Admittedly I'm in a s*** mood today. Dunno why.

But there have been many, what I would call borderline racist comments appearing on this site.


The problem is every time immigration is bought up someone always cry's racist.
Whenever somebody brings up radical Islam someone always cry's racist.
This sort of attitude stifles sensible debate. Of course no one condones racism but we need to shake off immigration and Radical Islam as racist subjects because there not

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 8.26pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 3.29pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Aug 2015 3.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 3.03pm

I don't think he's referring to you Stirling.

No, I didn't think so either.....I genuinely don't know what's occurred and the thread is so big now I'm almost scared to read it beyond the last few pages.

I quite like Nick....Something must have rattled his cage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2015 3.19pm)


Admittedly I'm in a s*** mood today. Dunno why.

But there have been many, what I would call borderline racist comments appearing on this site.


The problem is every time immigration is bought up someone always cry's racist.
Whenever somebody brings up radical Islam someone always cry's racist.
This sort of attitude stifles sensible debate. Of course no one condones racism but we need to shake off immigration and Radical Islam as racist subjects because there not


Your lucky I'm on holiday as there is a lot to mark in there.

I disagree, whilst I understand your sentiment, I personally feel that a xenophobic rhetoric towards the migrants and anti Muslim narrative are rearing their ugly heads more and more in the national vernacular.

 

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fed up eagle Flag Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 14 Aug 15 8.36pm Send a Private Message to fed up eagle Add fed up eagle as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 8.26pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 3.29pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Aug 2015 3.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 3.03pm

I don't think he's referring to you Stirling.

No, I didn't think so either.....I genuinely don't know what's occurred and the thread is so big now I'm almost scared to read it beyond the last few pages.

I quite like Nick....Something must have rattled his cage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2015 3.19pm)


Admittedly I'm in a s*** mood today. Dunno why.

But there have been many, what I would call borderline racist comments appearing on this site.


The problem is every time immigration is bought up someone always cry's racist.
Whenever somebody brings up radical Islam someone always cry's racist.
This sort of attitude stifles sensible debate. Of course no one condones racism but we need to shake off immigration and Radical Islam as racist subjects because there not


Your lucky I'm on holiday as there is a lot to mark in there.

I disagree, whilst I understand your sentiment, I personally feel that a xenophobic rhetoric towards the migrants and anti Muslim narrative are rearing their ugly heads more and more in the national vernacular.

Well some people make a racist thing out of it but most people are just concerned. I don't believe all Muslims are terrorists and I don't believe all immigrants are horrible people just coming here to milk the system, sadly groups like Britain First wade into the argument and make racist remarks, making anyone who brings the subject up look like extremists. There's always room for sensible debate on these subjects.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 8.37pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.36pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 8.26pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 3.29pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Aug 2015 3.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 3.03pm

I don't think he's referring to you Stirling.

No, I didn't think so either.....I genuinely don't know what's occurred and the thread is so big now I'm almost scared to read it beyond the last few pages.

I quite like Nick....Something must have rattled his cage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2015 3.19pm)


Admittedly I'm in a s*** mood today. Dunno why.

But there have been many, what I would call borderline racist comments appearing on this site.


The problem is every time immigration is bought up someone always cry's racist.
Whenever somebody brings up radical Islam someone always cry's racist.
This sort of attitude stifles sensible debate. Of course no one condones racism but we need to shake off immigration and Radical Islam as racist subjects because there not


Your lucky I'm on holiday as there is a lot to mark in there.

I disagree, whilst I understand your sentiment, I personally feel that a xenophobic rhetoric towards the migrants and anti Muslim narrative are rearing their ugly heads more and more in the national vernacular.

Well some people make a racist thing out of it but most people are just concerned. I don't believe all Muslims are terrorists and I don't believe all immigrants are horrible people just coming here to milk the system, sadly groups like Britain First wade into the argument and make racist remarks, making anyone who brings the subject up look like extremists. There's always room for sensible debate on these subjects.


They've got a lot of Facebook followers though... Don't mind posting their stuff up.

It's a golden age for genuine racists as they can be more open about it whilst the anti foreigner rhetoric continues.

Edited by nickgusset (14 Aug 2015 8.39pm)

 

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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 8.46pm

The current climate also allows some of those in the UK who do hold racist sentiments to dress them up in a smokescreen and seek to legitimise them by referring to "migrants" and "muslims".No doubt they would say that what they primarily have in mind when using such terms are WASP "migrants" and "muslims"

 

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fed up eagle Flag Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 14 Aug 15 8.54pm Send a Private Message to fed up eagle Add fed up eagle as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 8.37pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.36pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 8.26pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 3.29pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Aug 2015 3.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 3.03pm

I don't think he's referring to you Stirling.

No, I didn't think so either.....I genuinely don't know what's occurred and the thread is so big now I'm almost scared to read it beyond the last few pages.

I quite like Nick....Something must have rattled his cage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2015 3.19pm)


Admittedly I'm in a s*** mood today. Dunno why.

But there have been many, what I would call borderline racist comments appearing on this site.


The problem is every time immigration is bought up someone always cry's racist.
Whenever somebody brings up radical Islam someone always cry's racist.
This sort of attitude stifles sensible debate. Of course no one condones racism but we need to shake off immigration and Radical Islam as racist subjects because there not


Your lucky I'm on holiday as there is a lot to mark in there.

I disagree, whilst I understand your sentiment, I personally feel that a xenophobic rhetoric towards the migrants and anti Muslim narrative are rearing their ugly heads more and more in the national vernacular.

Well some people make a racist thing out of it but most people are just concerned. I don't believe all Muslims are terrorists and I don't believe all immigrants are horrible people just coming here to milk the system, sadly groups like Britain First wade into the argument and make racist remarks, making anyone who brings the subject up look like extremists. There's always room for sensible debate on these subjects.


They've got a lot of Facebook followers though... Don't mind posting their stuff up.

It's a golden age for genuine racists as they can be more open about it whilst the anti foreigner rhetoric continues.

Edited by nickgusset (14 Aug 2015 8.39pm)


Britain First are just a splinter group of the BNP. I've seen their facebook page, pretty embarrassing stuff.

 

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OldFella Flag London 14 Aug 15 9.57pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 8.26pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 3.29pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Aug 2015 3.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 3.03pm

I don't think he's referring to you Stirling.

No, I didn't think so either.....I genuinely don't know what's occurred and the thread is so big now I'm almost scared to read it beyond the last few pages.

I quite like Nick....Something must have rattled his cage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2015 3.19pm)


Admittedly I'm in a s*** mood today. Dunno why.

But there have been many, what I would call borderline racist comments appearing on this site.


The problem is every time immigration is bought up someone always cry's racist.
Whenever somebody brings up radical Islam someone always cry's racist.
This sort of attitude stifles sensible debate. Of course no one condones racism but we need to shake off immigration and Radical Islam as racist subjects because there not


Your lucky I'm on holiday as there is a lot to mark in there.

I disagree, whilst I understand your sentiment, I personally feel that a xenophobic rhetoric towards the migrants and anti Muslim narrative are rearing their ugly heads more and more in the national vernacular.

And in there...the word is "you're". It is short for you are. Are you sure that you are a teacher, Nick??


 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 10.04pm

Quote OldFella at 14 Aug 2015 9.57pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 8.26pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 3.29pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Aug 2015 3.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 3.03pm

I don't think he's referring to you Stirling.

No, I didn't think so either.....I genuinely don't know what's occurred and the thread is so big now I'm almost scared to read it beyond the last few pages.

I quite like Nick....Something must have rattled his cage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2015 3.19pm)


Admittedly I'm in a s*** mood today. Dunno why.

But there have been many, what I would call borderline racist comments appearing on this site.


The problem is every time immigration is bought up someone always cry's racist.
Whenever somebody brings up radical Islam someone always cry's racist.
This sort of attitude stifles sensible debate. Of course no one condones racism but we need to shake off immigration and Radical Islam as racist subjects because there not


Your lucky I'm on holiday as there is a lot to mark in there.

I disagree, whilst I understand your sentiment, I personally feel that a xenophobic rhetoric towards the migrants and anti Muslim narrative are rearing their ugly heads more and more in the national vernacular.

And in there...the word is "you're". It is short for you are. Are you sure that you are a teacher, Nick??



Do you think I actually give 2 s***s?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Aug 15 8.48pm

Perspective...

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coulsdoneagle Flag London 15 Aug 15 8.54pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Of course it is possible to have a reasoned discussion about these topics, but there seems to be a dangerous acceptance of casual racism. When a national newspaper gives column space to someone dehumanising people in a serious plight labelling them as 'cockroaches' I think you have to question the trend.

I think nicks post above is quite important, at the heart of it the issue with Calais is not an immigration issue, but a humanitarian crisis.

 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 15 Aug 15 9.50pm

Quote coulsdoneagle at 15 Aug 2015 8.54pm

Of course it is possible to have a reasoned discussion about these topics, but there seems to be a dangerous acceptance of casual racism. When a national newspaper gives column space to someone dehumanising people in a serious plight labelling them as 'cockroaches' I think you have to question the trend.

I think nicks post above is quite important, at the heart of it the issue with Calais is not an immigration issue, but a humanitarian crisis.

No it is not. That implies that they are helpless victims which they are not. Every single one of them knows that they can claim asylum in France but does not want to. That is their choice.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Aug 15 10.00pm

Quote Catfish at 15 Aug 2015 9.50pm

Quote coulsdoneagle at 15 Aug 2015 8.54pm

Of course it is possible to have a reasoned discussion about these topics, but there seems to be a dangerous acceptance of casual racism. When a national newspaper gives column space to someone dehumanising people in a serious plight labelling them as 'cockroaches' I think you have to question the trend.

I think nicks post above is quite important, at the heart of it the issue with Calais is not an immigration issue, but a humanitarian crisis.

No it is not. That implies that they are helpless victims which they are not. Every single one of them knows that they can claim asylum in France but does not want to. That is their choice.

Not the kids choice though is it?

 

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