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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 13 2.38pm
Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link] Article by the left-wing 'Liberal Conspiracy'.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 13 2.38pm

Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm

Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link]

Article by the left-wing 'Liberal Conspiracy'.

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Kingvagabond London 11 Apr 13 2.42pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 11 Apr 2013 2.36pm Quote Kingvagabond at 11 Apr 2013 2.13pm I see no real reason why a member of my family who supported Thatcher on a huge series of situations would have a reason to lie to me about what they saw that day no? Well, I'm not going to call anyone a liar but I will say that from what I know about doing security in my youthful past I have a world weary perspective on it. Doing security at large gatherings basically means containing large groups of people and often stopping them from doing what they want to do.....I would just say that I have my doubts as too the one sided nature of the description given to you. In situations of high stress there is rarely one side who are the innocent ones and bad apples on either side don't define whole sections. The standards of behaviour for the Police are set far higher than they are for the public. Yet in my eyes each individual is responsible for their behaviour...And that's wearing a uniform and taking the state's coin or protesting and expressing your democratic rights. [Link] [Link] I suspect that you will argue that the Guardian has an agenda as well and you are of course right but it does seem to corroborate what my Dad's cousin said pretty cohesively. Part of Holmesdale Radio: The Next Generation @KingvagabondHOL Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........
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Quote Stirlingsays at 11 Apr 2013 2.36pm

Quote Kingvagabond at 11 Apr 2013 2.13pm

I see no real reason why a member of my family who supported Thatcher on a huge series of situations would have a reason to lie to me about what they saw that day no?

Well, I'm not going to call anyone a liar but I will say that from what I know about doing security in my youthful past I have a world weary perspective on it. Doing security at large gatherings basically means containing large groups of people and often stopping them from doing what they want to do.....I would just say that I have my doubts as too the one sided nature of the description given to you.

In situations of high stress there is rarely one side who are the innocent ones and bad apples on either side don't define whole sections.

The standards of behaviour for the Police are set far higher than they are for the public. Yet in my eyes each individual is responsible for their behaviour...And that's wearing a uniform and taking the state's coin or protesting and expressing your democratic rights.

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I suspect that you will argue that the Guardian has an agenda as well and you are of course right but it does seem to corroborate what my Dad's cousin said pretty cohesively.

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Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am

He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 13 2.44pm
Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link] Taken from a left wing website so hardly a balanced viewpoint is it. Also from reading it the writer seems to not understand much about how growth works. Growth rates can't maintain high levels continually. As an economy gets larger and attains more wealth it will eventually slow down...'Productivity cannot continuously improve at the same rate'. China and India know this and are seeing the same effect. They are starting to see that initial growth rate lower as they maximize out in certain sectors. They have a long way to go yet but they will need to expand in different areas to get back to previous levels. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 13 2.44pm

Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm

Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link]

Taken from a left wing website so hardly a balanced viewpoint is it.

Also from reading it the writer seems to not understand much about how growth works.

Growth rates can't maintain high levels continually. As an economy gets larger and attains more wealth it will eventually slow down...'Productivity cannot continuously improve at the same rate'.

China and India know this and are seeing the same effect. They are starting to see that initial growth rate lower as they maximize out in certain sectors.

They have a long way to go yet but they will need to expand in different areas to get back to previous levels.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Seth On a pale blue dot 11 Apr 13 2.52pm
Quote Willo at 11 Apr 2013 2.38pm Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link] Article by the left-wing 'Liberal Conspiracy'. Predictable reply from the poster who previously quoted the Daily Mail as a reliable source. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 11 Apr 13 2.52pm

Quote Willo at 11 Apr 2013 2.38pm

Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm

Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link]

Article by the left-wing 'Liberal Conspiracy'.

Predictable reply from the poster who previously quoted the Daily Mail as a reliable source.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 13 2.54pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 11 Apr 2013 2.42pm I suspect that you will argue that the Guardian has an agenda as well and you are of course right but it does seem to corroborate what my Dad's cousin said pretty cohesively. 'The author, who did not want to be named'. Says it all really. Maybe there's some truth in it but what more is there to say. Unless someone is prepared to actually stand up and point fingers it remains unproven. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

11 Apr 13 2.54pm

Quote Kingvagabond at 11 Apr 2013 2.42pm

I suspect that you will argue that the Guardian has an agenda as well and you are of course right but it does seem to corroborate what my Dad's cousin said pretty cohesively.

'The author, who did not want to be named'.

Says it all really.

Maybe there's some truth in it but what more is there to say. Unless someone is prepared to actually stand up and point fingers it remains unproven.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 13 2.55pm
Quote Predictable reply from the poster who previously quoted the Daily Mail as a reliable source. The 'Daily Mail' has quotes from politicians of all parties. Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 2.55pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 13 2.55pm

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Predictable reply from the poster who previously quoted the Daily Mail as a reliable source.

The 'Daily Mail' has quotes from politicians of all parties.

Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 2.55pm)

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Stirlingsays 11 Apr 13 2.55pm
Ah well. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2013 2.57pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

11 Apr 13 2.55pm

Ah well.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2013 2.57pm)

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Seth On a pale blue dot 11 Apr 13 3.00pm
Quote Willo at 11 Apr 2013 2.55pm Quote Predictable reply from the poster who previously quoted the Daily Mail as a reliable source. The 'Daily Mail' has quotes from politicians of all parties. Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 2.55pm) Are you suggesting the Mail has no political agenda? Of course the Liberal Conspiracy website is coming from an angle - I didn't deny that. Are you saying the same about the Daily Mail? Seriously? "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 11 Apr 13 3.00pm

Quote Willo at 11 Apr 2013 2.55pm

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Predictable reply from the poster who previously quoted the Daily Mail as a reliable source.

The 'Daily Mail' has quotes from politicians of all parties.

Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 2.55pm)

Are you suggesting the Mail has no political agenda?

Of course the Liberal Conspiracy website is coming from an angle - I didn't deny that. Are you saying the same about the Daily Mail? Seriously?

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 13 3.09pm
Quote Seth Are you suggesting the Mail has no political agenda? Of course the Liberal Conspiracy website is coming from an angle - I didn't deny that. Are you saying the same about the Daily Mail? Seriously? I would say that committed Conservative supporters like myself gravitate towards the 'Daily Mail' and 'Telegraph'. Willo Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 3.22pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 13 3.09pm

Quote Seth

Are you suggesting the Mail has no political agenda?

Of course the Liberal Conspiracy website is coming from an angle - I didn't deny that. Are you saying the same about the Daily Mail? Seriously?

I would say that committed Conservative supporters like myself gravitate towards the 'Daily Mail' and 'Telegraph'.

Willo

Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 3.22pm)

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Apr 13 3.19pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 11 Apr 2013 1.33pm Quote Jamesey at 11 Apr 2013 1.23pm Quote susmik at 11 Apr 2013 12.49pm Quote ChuFukka at 08 Apr 2013 1.36pm Terrible shame. A great Prime Minister, and her death has certainly shown the true colours of a number of people on here. Celebrating the death of a very unwell old lady - unbelievable. I have to agree.....there are some people on here that talk out their backsides and do NOT really know how much maggie did for this country and how she pulled us back from the brink when we were going down the pan due to strikes and nationalised companies that were dragging us down. Many on here that are old enough to have lived through the period she was Prime Minister will know that the unions had virtually taken over the mad house But she took them to task and beat them. Arthur Scargill was on the picket lines with the miners making them attack police and everyone that was not on their side...I know because I was backing the police with fellow marines on the picket lines. The miners got sucked into a situation that they did not really understand but followed that idiot Scargill who incidently got shunned by the unions some years ago due to lining his pockets and bumming accomodation costs through his union funds. He was a total waste of space and did more harm than good. At the time of the strikes coal was going out of fashion anyway due to health worries. in fact the "Green movement" started at that time and was the start of all the "Save the Planet brigade". A lot of people on here do not really know just how much good maggie did for this country but instead harp on the things she did wrong...NO-ONE is perfect are they? I would like to think that people on here who are not Conservative would show some respect for her just as Red Ed did yesterday instead of following like sheep and Slagging her off and having street parties.....its a sad thing for our country when people stoop that low and show their barbaric ways. I have seensome really bad threads on the Holmsdale but this takes the biscuit!!! I haven't always agreed with this gentleman but he has it summed up perfectly. New lows of barbaric nastiness from the Thatcher ghouls. Hmm, well I know Cornish and Devon police who were shipped up in Yorkshire at the time who said everything was peaceful up there and the copppers were just talking to the police...then the Met Police aka Thatcher's personal guard, arrived and suddenly all hell broke loose. The cornish police put in a complaint about the Met Police's behaviour for it. It was when THEY got up there as we had restored some sort of calm because the local police up there at that time had lost control...hence the reason WE had to go up!! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Apr 13 3.19pm

Quote Kingvagabond at 11 Apr 2013 1.33pm

Quote Jamesey at 11 Apr 2013 1.23pm

Quote susmik at 11 Apr 2013 12.49pm

Quote ChuFukka at 08 Apr 2013 1.36pm

Terrible shame. A great Prime Minister, and her death has certainly shown the true colours of a number of people on here. Celebrating the death of a very unwell old lady - unbelievable.

I have to agree.....there are some people on here that talk out their backsides and do NOT really know how much maggie did for this country and how she pulled us back from the brink when we were going down the pan due to strikes and nationalised companies that were dragging us down. Many on here that are old enough to have lived through the period she was Prime Minister will know that the unions had virtually taken over the mad house But she took them to task and beat them. Arthur Scargill was on the picket lines with the miners making them attack police and everyone that was not on their side...I know because I was backing the police with fellow marines on the picket lines. The miners got sucked into a situation that they did not really understand but followed that idiot Scargill who incidently got shunned by the unions some years ago due to lining his pockets and bumming accomodation costs through his union funds. He was a total waste of space and did more harm than good. At the time of the strikes coal was going out of fashion anyway due to health worries. in fact the "Green movement" started at that time and was the start of all the "Save the Planet brigade".
A lot of people on here do not really know just how much good maggie did for this country but instead harp on the things she did wrong...NO-ONE is perfect are they?
I would like to think that people on here who are not Conservative would show some respect for her just as Red Ed did yesterday instead of following like sheep and Slagging her off and having street parties.....its a sad thing for our country when people stoop that low and show their barbaric ways.
I have seensome really bad threads on the Holmsdale but this takes the biscuit!!!

I haven't always agreed with this gentleman but he has it summed up perfectly. New lows of barbaric nastiness from the Thatcher ghouls.

Hmm, well I know Cornish and Devon police who were shipped up in Yorkshire at the time who said everything was peaceful up there and the copppers were just talking to the police...then the Met Police aka Thatcher's personal guard, arrived and suddenly all hell broke loose. The cornish police put in a complaint about the Met Police's behaviour for it.

It was when THEY got up there as we had restored some sort of calm because the local police up there at that time had lost control...hence the reason WE had to go up!!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Johnny Eagles berlin 11 Apr 13 3.20pm
Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link] ...because it's that simple. Have they controlled for all the other variables, like, say, erm, I dunno, the fall of the Berlin wall? Invention of the internet? The performance of other economies over the last three and a bit decades? Pantomime stuff. ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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berlin 11 Apr 13 3.20pm

Quote Seth at 11 Apr 2013 2.34pm

Interesting article arguing that Thatcher's economic model didn't work and our economy is now more unstable and volatile that the one it replaced: [Link]

...because it's that simple.

Have they controlled for all the other variables, like, say, erm, I dunno, the fall of the Berlin wall? Invention of the internet? The performance of other economies over the last three and a bit decades?

Pantomime stuff.

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Apr 13 3.28pm
Quote nickgusset at 11 Apr 2013 2.17pm Quote Willo at 11 Apr 2013 2.14pm Quote dingdong at 11 Apr 2013 12.47pm the cost of the b#tches funeral is around the 8 million mark. The rebate that Mrs Thatcher negotiated for this country has brought us so far £75BILLION and I believe that this puts money into perspective. Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 2.15pm) And how has this money been invested to rejuvenate the areas that suffered from pit closures? Nick, a lot of money was invested in the following years to accomodate the miners who lost their job, BUt some were too ill (from coal dust) some refused to re train in some useful sort of work and some were too damm lazy and thought if they kicked up a bit of a fuss the mines would re-open.... They are still kicking today if the truth be known. Many people over the years have had to re-train and have made themselves a decent living. The unions at the moment are trying to re create the "Good old days" when they ran the country......But it wont happen as people have got wise to their way of doing things. We have been far better off since maggie killed the union power off! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Apr 13 3.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 Apr 2013 2.17pm

Quote Willo at 11 Apr 2013 2.14pm

Quote dingdong at 11 Apr 2013 12.47pm

the cost of the b#tches funeral is around the 8 million mark.

The rebate that Mrs Thatcher negotiated for this country has brought us so far £75BILLION and I believe that this puts money into perspective.

Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2013 2.15pm)

And how has this money been invested to rejuvenate the areas that suffered from pit closures?

Nick, a lot of money was invested in the following years to accomodate the miners who lost their job, BUt some were too ill (from coal dust) some refused to re train in some useful sort of work and some were too damm lazy and thought if they kicked up a bit of a fuss the mines would re-open.... They are still kicking today if the truth be known. Many people over the years have had to re-train and have made themselves a decent living. The unions at the moment are trying to re create the "Good old days" when they ran the country......But it wont happen as people have got wise to their way of doing things. We have been far better off since maggie killed the union power off!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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