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 EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 19 Jun 24 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You really believe labour will only Spend 5 billion. Is that a weekly or daily chart as their MO is to spend spend spend spend until it’s all gone. Don’t you remember all the contracts Labour gave out just before Cameron came in. Had to cancel billions of pounds worth as the dosh wasn’t there and labour knew they were toast. Ding ding ding, another one lands.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Jun 24 7.15pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
From the graph you posted and my subsequent reply, what point have I demonstrated?
That people disproportionately obsess over Labour’s tax and funding policies based on decade-old tropes. You were presented with a graph displaying the spending pledges of all major parties, of which Labours is the lowest by a distance, and in the face of that evidence, your response was not to comment on the irresponsible spending of the parties proposing to spend considerably more… but to speculate on the party proposing the least. If people scrutinised the funding of Reform’s manifesto even 10% to the extent they do Labour’s… how could they support it? The only answer is it has f*** all to do with the actual spending pledges or concerns around funding it.
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| Stirlingsays 19 Jun 24 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
That’s a silly suggestion - I was calling Starmer a liar way before it was cool. It's not a silly suggestion though is it if you're acknowledging the dishonesty of Starmer but then posting images of the Labour manifesto and taking its lack of spending pledges seriously.
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| Spiderman Horsham 19 Jun 24 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
That people disproportionately obsess over Labour’s tax and funding policies based on decade-old tropes. You were presented with a graph displaying the spending pledges of all major parties, of which Labours is the lowest by a distance, and in the face of that evidence, your response was not to comment on the irresponsible spending of the parties proposing to spend considerably more… but to speculate on the party proposing the least. If people scrutinised the funding of Reform’s manifesto even 10% to the extent they do Labour’s… how could they support it? The only answer is it has f*** all to do with the actual spending pledges or concerns around funding it. I was replying as someone who has lived through a Union run Labour Government, which sent my fathers business into bankruptcy which, imo, led him to an early grave (54) shortly followed by my mother. So please excuse me if I have no time for the Labour Party ( my father was a lifetime Labour supporter) . It is, of course your perogative to believe the Labour manifesto, I don’t. Who will be proved right, let’s revisit this in a couple of years
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Jun 24 7.36pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I was replying as someone who has lived through a Union run Labour Government, which sent my fathers business into bankruptcy which, imo, led him to an early grave (54) shortly followed by my mother. So please excuse me if I have no time for the Labour Party ( my father was a lifetime Labour supporter) . It is, of course your perogative to believe the Labour manifesto, I don’t. Who will be proved right, let’s revisit this in a couple of years It’s difficult to reply to this without coming across as insensitive, which is not my intention, so please forgive me if it comes across that way. How many businesses have gone into bankruptcy as a result of this government?
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| Spiderman Horsham 19 Jun 24 8.01pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It’s difficult to reply to this without coming across as insensitive, which is not my intention, so please forgive me if it comes across that way. How many businesses have gone into bankruptcy as a result of this government? Did I say it was unique to Labour? What is unique to Labour is being run by the Unions and they were the main reason for my family business going bankrupt . Have the Tories sent people into bankruptcy, absolutely they have, and I have no time fir them as a party anymore and I am old enough and ugly enough not believe any thing any political party says, if you wish to believe them, your perogative.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Jun 24 8.08pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Did I say it was unique to Labour? What is unique to Labour is being run by the Unions and they were the main reason for my family business going bankrupt . Have the Tories sent people into bankruptcy, absolutely they have, and I have no time fir them as a party anymore and I am old enough and ugly enough not believe any thing any political party says, if you wish to believe them, your perogative. No but it’s immediately where you went upon seeing the graph. You’ve also just said you’ll be voting Tory, despite acknowledging they’ve done exactly the thing you hold so strongly against Labour. You shouldn’t feel like you have to vote - it’s all a racket and not wanting to be part of it is perfectly reasonable, in my opinion.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.40pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Vietnamese boat people drinking urine, Andes plane crash survivors eating their fellow passengers…and yet Marmite you find unpalatable. I personally don’t like it but there are some who do. That’s the point. Not my personal taste. No-one is equivocal about Marmite. You either love it or you hate it. Just as you do with Farage. With a food product that can be a good thing. Having a group who really love your product can mean success. Not so with a politician, when the hates outnumber the loves, as they do, and always will.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Yup they daren't tell you though after the brexit bollocking you must have given them ! If knew either of my daughters you would laugh at such a suggestion. In fact they would give you such a bollocking you would certainly regret suggesting it.
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Teddy Eagle  19 Jun 24 8.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I personally don’t like it but there are some who do. That’s the point. Not my personal taste. No-one is equivocal about Marmite. You either love it or you hate it. Just as you do with Farage. With a food product that can be a good thing. Having a group who really love your product can mean success. Not so with a politician, when the hates outnumber the loves, as they do, and always will. You don't have to like a musician to enjoy the tunes they play. Regardless of Farage's popularity he achieved what he set out to do.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 9.21pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You don't have to like a musician to enjoy the tunes they play. Regardless of Farage's popularity he achieved what he set out to do. The dislike in Farage’s case extends well beyond anything personal. It includes his politics too. Yes he helped get the referendum called by unsettling the Tories but the official leave campaign wanted nothing to do with him. So whilst he did achieve what he wanted he didn’t achieve it by being loved. We are now in a very different scenario, although who knows what he is actually trying to do. It certainly isn’t achieving power. It is more probably trying to split the Tories apart in the hope he can ride in to take over the right wing rump. Which would consign the UK to a very long period of Labour governments, followed by a hung parliament and eventual PR.
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| Teddy Eagle 19 Jun 24 9.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The dislike in Farage’s case extends well beyond anything personal. It includes his politics too. Yes he helped get the referendum called by unsettling the Tories but the official leave campaign wanted nothing to do with him. So whilst he did achieve what he wanted he didn’t achieve it by being loved. We are now in a very different scenario, although who knows what he is actually trying to do. It certainly isn’t achieving power. It is more probably trying to split the Tories apart in the hope he can ride in to take over the right wing rump. Which would consign the UK to a very long period of Labour governments, followed by a hung parliament and eventual PR. He was unhappy with the situation and did what you advise others; he started a campaign.
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