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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 May 23 3.27pm | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Here we go again with more petty insults...you loose all credibility once you start that again....... All you do is smear and stigmatise anyone who asks legitimate questions or provides you with facts and or data. As it appears most here don't feel I have ever had any legitimacy there's not a lot of damage done then is there? As many of the responses I receive are a liturgy of innuendo and insult it's a bit rich when I, very occasionally, return some to a very well-deserving case. I have yet to witness a legitimate question from you, let alone any facts or data. All you post is recycled misinformation and baseless assertions. Not that there's the slightest chance of you realising that.
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eaglesdare 11 May 23 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As it appears most here don't feel I have ever had any legitimacy there's not a lot of damage done then is there? As many of the responses I receive are a liturgy of innuendo and insult it's a bit rich when I, very occasionally, return some to a very well-deserving case. I have yet to witness a legitimate question from you, let alone any facts or data. All you post is recycled misinformation and baseless assertions. Not that there's the slightest chance of you realising that. There we go again. Point well and truly proven. I have provided legitimate questions and concerns on vaccine side effects, lockdown effects etc...also I have provided stats and facts and you just brush them off as a "conspiracy theory" or worse. Like I said once you resort to petty insults then you loose all credibility. Why sink low to what others do if they insult you? At least keep the moral high ground.
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Stirlingsays 12 May 23 2.18am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As it appears most here don't feel I have ever had any legitimacy there's not a lot of damage done then is there? As many of the responses I receive are a liturgy of innuendo and insult it's a bit rich when I, very occasionally, return some to a very well-deserving case. I have yet to witness a legitimate question from you, let alone any facts or data. All you post is recycled misinformation and baseless assertions. Not that there's the slightest chance of you realising that. You should be so lucky! For some reason I can't seem to picture you in a carry on movie or Benny Hill show.
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Stirlingsays 12 May 23 2.20am | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
There we go again. Point well and truly proven. I have provided legitimate questions and concerns on vaccine side effects, lockdown effects etc...also I have provided stats and facts and you just brush them off as a "conspiracy theory" or worse. Like I said once you resort to petty insults then you loose all credibility. Why sink low to what others do if they insult you? At least keep the moral high ground. He'd probably prefer to buy to let.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 May 23 8.43am | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
There we go again. Point well and truly proven. I have provided legitimate questions and concerns on vaccine side effects, lockdown effects etc...also I have provided stats and facts and you just brush them off as a "conspiracy theory" or worse. Like I said once you resort to petty insults then you loose all credibility. Why sink low to what others do if they insult you? At least keep the moral high ground. I don't "brush them off" as conspiracy theories. They are conspiracy theories! Only a conspiracy theorist thinks they aren't. There is lots of information available to provide the answers to your "questions" and provide any necessary reassurance about side effects, but people like you either don't read them or won't accept them. You have an instinctive rejection of expert opinion. What you see as insult I see as ridicule, which is what the spread of dangerous misinformation deserves.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 May 23 8.46am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You should be so lucky! For some reason I can't seem to picture you in a carry on movie or Benny Hill show. Whilst you might only recognise innuendo in the context of a Carry On film it has a much wider application than that, and crops up in places like this quite frequently.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 May 23 8.48am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He'd probably prefer to buy to let. Why? Is buying to let immoral?
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eaglesdare 12 May 23 10.06am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't "brush them off" as conspiracy theories. They are conspiracy theories! Only a conspiracy theorist thinks they aren't. There is lots of information available to provide the answers to your "questions" and provide any necessary reassurance about side effects, but people like you either don't read them or won't accept them. You have an instinctive rejection of expert opinion. What you see as insult I see as ridicule, which is what the spread of dangerous misinformation deserves.
You really did just score an own goal there. And how do you even define expert opinion? is it only expert opinion if it suits an agenda? and what if an expert opinion does not fit an agenda are they still experts? Experts have been wrong numerous times. "Experts" repeatedly said once you get the vaccine it stops transmission and stops you catching covid. Which is wrong completely. Dangerous misinformation is saying the vaccine is safe and effected to everyone and does not transmit the virus once you get it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 May 23 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
You really did just score an own goal there. And how do you even define expert opinion? is it only expert opinion if it suits an agenda? and what if an expert opinion does not fit an agenda are they still experts? Experts have been wrong numerous times. "Experts" repeatedly said once you get the vaccine it stops transmission and stops you catching covid. Which is wrong completely. Dangerous misinformation is saying the vaccine is safe and effected to everyone and does not transmit the virus once you get it.
You don't "brush things off" that you sincerely believe aren't true. Just because you think they have validity doesn't mean they have any. It's not just me who regards these ideas as conspiracy theories. It's a large number of well-informed observers many of whom are professionally qualified to make their judgments. I am unaware if you have any such qualifications. You seem to rely on a few outliers and pseudo-science to justify ideas that are not shared by most. Experts are those whose work it is to study these things and make judgments based on knowledge and facts, and not on emotion or prejudice. Of course, they have to revise their advice, as knowledge increases. That's the same in any scientific field. When it appeared that the vaccines would stop infections, they said so. When variants started to circulate that managed to infect the vaccinated, whilst still having their impact curtailed by the vaccines, they revised their advice. Science is not set in stone. It's always a working hypothesis that is capable of being replaced by a better one. It has to be better though. One that is tested, peer-reviewed and generally accepted by the scientific community involved. Not something pontificated about by someone with a theory. You are allowed to go on being unvaccinated. That's your right. If it was down to me that right would carry many more obligations alongside it than are being applied, but I am not in government.
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eaglesdare 12 May 23 1.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You don't "brush things off" that you sincerely believe aren't true. Just because you think they have validity doesn't mean they have any. It's not just me who regards these ideas as conspiracy theories. It's a large number of well-informed observers many of whom are professionally qualified to make their judgments. I am unaware if you have any such qualifications. You seem to rely on a few outliers and pseudo-science to justify ideas that are not shared by most. Experts are those whose work it is to study these things and make judgments based on knowledge and facts, and not on emotion or prejudice. Of course, they have to revise their advice, as knowledge increases. That's the same in any scientific field. When it appeared that the vaccines would stop infections, they said so. When variants started to circulate that managed to infect the vaccinated, whilst still having their impact curtailed by the vaccines, they revised their advice. Science is not set in stone. It's always a working hypothesis that is capable of being replaced by a better one. It has to be better though. One that is tested, peer-reviewed and generally accepted by the scientific community involved. Not something pontificated about by someone with a theory. You are allowed to go on being unvaccinated. That's your right. If it was down to me that right would carry many more obligations alongside it than are being applied, but I am not in government. It was never tested on transmissions and the likes of Pfizer even admitted this. So how in the world could these so called "experts" give advice on something that was not even tested in the first place. Another own goal there it seems! Like I said these "experts" have agendas. You yourself also said this in regards to the YouTube doctors with "conspiracy theories" It seems an experts opinion only matters if it fits a certain agenda. I had legitimate concerns over the vaccine safety and it's side effects. So just for having these concerns about my body and the effect it has on me I am automatically a "Conspiracy theorist" in your book?
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Stirlingsays 12 May 23 2.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst you might only recognise innuendo in the context of a Carry On film it has a much wider application than that, and crops up in places like this quite frequently.
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Stirlingsays 12 May 23 2.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Why? Is buying to let immoral? That rather depends on the landlord and the rules around letting doesn't it.
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