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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Dec 17 1.03pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You are just apart of the hyperbolic reaction against him. The only policy that Trump has come up with that I agree with is his immigration attempts.....opposed at every turn of course. That and it's obvious to see the positive affect that Trump has had on business confidence. However the most notable aspect about Trump is seeing in just how much hatred he stirs within those I hardly ever agree with. Yours and others inability to be objective over Trump marks you out as just as bad as the Republican tea party was. Just like they were with Obama, seemingly with every comment it's comparing Trump with the worse things they can think of. I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are just apart of the hyperbolic reaction against him.

The only policy that Trump has come up with that I agree with is his immigration attempts.....opposed at every turn of course. That and it's obvious to see the positive affect that Trump has had on business confidence.

However the most notable aspect about Trump is seeing in just how much hatred he stirs within those I hardly ever agree with.

Yours and others inability to be objective over Trump marks you out as just as bad as the Republican tea party was.

Just like they were with Obama, seemingly with every comment it's comparing Trump with the worse things they can think of.

I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level.

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DanH SW2 13 Dec 17 1.06pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level. Hiya. Obama cannot help being black. Trump can help being all the things that he is. Small, but I think you'll find, crucial, detail.
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SW2 13 Dec 17 1.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level.

Hiya. Obama cannot help being black. Trump can help being all the things that he is. Small, but I think you'll find, crucial, detail.

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wordup 13 Dec 17 1.13pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 But down he goes. So shines a good deed in a weary world.
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13 Dec 17 1.13pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

But down he goes.

So shines a good deed in a weary world.

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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Dec 17 1.14pm
Originally posted by DanH Hiya. Obama cannot help being black. Trump can help being all the things that he is. Small, but I think you'll find, crucial, detail. That is undeniably true. However, my point still stands.
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Hrolf The Ganger

13 Dec 17 1.14pm

Originally posted by DanH

Hiya. Obama cannot help being black. Trump can help being all the things that he is. Small, but I think you'll find, crucial, detail.

That is undeniably true. However, my point still stands.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Dec 17 2.36pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level. I'm not astonished, the man is an incoherent ct who's deliberately alienated the media (fake news), engaged in cronyism, deals entirely in self propaganda, deceit and is incapable of tact - who's own staff seem to regularly undermine his presidency with leaks. He wasn't likable on his own TV show (in which he was the ruthless, w*er boss). Its a bit like complaining that the press on Ted Bundy is very one sided. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Dec 17 2.36pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level.

I'm not astonished, the man is an incoherent c**t who's deliberately alienated the media (fake news), engaged in cronyism, deals entirely in self propaganda, deceit and is incapable of tact - who's own staff seem to regularly undermine his presidency with leaks.

He wasn't likable on his own TV show (in which he was the ruthless, w***er boss). Its a bit like complaining that the press on Ted Bundy is very one sided.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Dec 17 2.37pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level. With Trump being one of those malice bearing conspiracy theorists. Pot kettle black. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Dec 17 2.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level.

With Trump being one of those malice bearing conspiracy theorists. Pot kettle black.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Dec 17 2.50pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I'm not astonished, the man is an incoherent ct who's deliberately alienated the media (fake news), engaged in cronyism, deals entirely in self propaganda, deceit and is incapable of tact - who's own staff seem to regularly undermine his presidency with leaks. He wasn't likable on his own TV show (in which he was the ruthless, w*er boss). Its a bit like complaining that the press on Ted Bundy is very one sided. You don't like him then. Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority. He is the embodyment of people's desperation. He is the ghost of Christmas dumb.
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13 Dec 17 2.50pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

He wasn't likable on his own TV show (in which he was the ruthless, w***er boss). Its a bit like complaining that the press on Ted Bundy is very one sided.

You don't like him then.

Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority.
He is the embodyment of people's desperation.

He is the ghost of Christmas dumb.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Dec 17 3.54pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You don't like him then. Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority. He is the embodyment of people's desperation. He is the ghost of Christmas dumb. Ironically, I really am enjoying the Trump Presidency, but yeah. I'd pretty much agree, its what happens when the choice is between someone who doesn't serve the agenda of the majority, and someone who deceives they represents the agenda of the majority. Ironically, you had a candidate who represented interests of capital and big business, and a candidate who pretended they wouldn't. The irony is that Trump isn't the problem, he's the symptom of a system that is inherently biased towards the interests not of voters, but wealth and the wealthy. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Dec 17 3.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't like him then.

Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority.
He is the embodyment of people's desperation.

He is the ghost of Christmas dumb.

Ironically, I really am enjoying the Trump Presidency, but yeah. I'd pretty much agree, its what happens when the choice is between someone who doesn't serve the agenda of the majority, and someone who deceives they represents the agenda of the majority.

Ironically, you had a candidate who represented interests of capital and big business, and a candidate who pretended they wouldn't.

The irony is that Trump isn't the problem, he's the symptom of a system that is inherently biased towards the interests not of voters, but wealth and the wealthy.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Dec 17 4.59pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You are just apart of the hyperbolic reaction against him. The only policy that Trump has come up with that I agree with is his immigration attempts.....opposed at every turn of course. That and it's obvious to see the positive affect that Trump has had on business confidence. However the most notable aspect about Trump is seeing in just how much hatred he stirs within those I hardly ever agree with. Yours and others inability to be objective over Trump marks you out as just as bad as the Republican tea party was. Just like they were with Obama, seemingly with every comment it's comparing Trump with the worse things they can think of. The man ran on a ticket of populism. He promised to drain the swamp, improve healthcare, tackle trade injustices and slap down big corporations who move jobs abroad. He's done none of that and shows no sign of doing any of that. Far from it. His appointments to high office are nearly all billionaires who used to work for Goldman Sachs. He's a plutocrat in populist clothing. His policies on tax and health care are objectively inefficient, inequitable and downright cruel. He's a liar and a hypocrite.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are just apart of the hyperbolic reaction against him.

However the most notable aspect about Trump is seeing in just how much hatred he stirs within those I hardly ever agree with.

Yours and others inability to be objective over Trump marks you out as just as bad as the Republican tea party was.

Just like they were with Obama, seemingly with every comment it's comparing Trump with the worse things they can think of.

The man ran on a ticket of populism. He promised to drain the swamp, improve healthcare, tackle trade injustices and slap down big corporations who move jobs abroad. He's done none of that and shows no sign of doing any of that. Far from it. His appointments to high office are nearly all billionaires who used to work for Goldman Sachs. He's a plutocrat in populist clothing.

His policies on tax and health care are objectively inefficient, inequitable and downright cruel.

He's a liar and a hypocrite.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Dec 17 5.00pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You don't like him then. Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority. He is the embodyment of people's desperation. He is the ghost of Christmas dumb. Yet he's the biggest elitist of them all, who does nothing to help anyone but those of his own ilk, and actively damages the lives of middle and working class Americans. What irony.
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Sydenham 13 Dec 17 5.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't like him then.

Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority.
He is the embodyment of people's desperation.

He is the ghost of Christmas dumb.

Yet he's the biggest elitist of them all, who does nothing to help anyone but those of his own ilk, and actively damages the lives of middle and working class Americans. What irony.

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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Dec 17 5.20pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Yet he's the biggest elitist of them all, who does nothing to help anyone but those of his own ilk, and actively damages the lives of middle and working class Americans. What irony. His history suggests that but he won on a ticket of America for Americans. That is a powerful message when your standard of living is dropping, Mexicans are flooding into your country at an alarming rate and immigrants are blowing things up.
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Hrolf The Ganger

13 Dec 17 5.20pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Yet he's the biggest elitist of them all, who does nothing to help anyone but those of his own ilk, and actively damages the lives of middle and working class Americans. What irony.

His history suggests that but he won on a ticket of America for Americans. That is a powerful message when your standard of living is dropping, Mexicans are flooding into your country at an alarming rate and immigrants are blowing things up.

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Ray in Houston Houston 13 Dec 17 6.07pm
Originally posted by jeeagles The USA unemployment rate is at is lowest level since the year 2000. The fall in unemployment may have started under previous administration but it's continued to fall under Trump. Now ask yourself, if you had a family to feed and where on the breadline, what would you care more about: - Getting a job - Claims that the president has acted inappropriately towards some rich women. The Democrats need to sort themselves out and realise that jobs are more important to people than anything else. A couple of observations: 1) Obama put together the longest unbroken streak of private sector job growth in American history - dropping unemployment from over 10% to under 5% in the process; 2) Job growth (and GDP growth) has slowed under Trump, despite his claims to the contrary ("biggest ever!") 3) With a booming stock market, solid job growth, low unemployment, low interest rates, low inflation etc. etc., why would the sitting President be so deeply unpopular? Each new poll has his approval ratings dropping deeper into the 30s while, more alarmingly for him, his disapproval ratings are soaring into the 60s. Trump won Alabama last year by a margin of +28%. While not on the ballot this year, exit polls asked for approval / disapproval of Trump's performance, and the result was 48% approve, 49% disapprove. In a year he went from +28% to -1%...in deep red Alabama! Edited by Ray in Houston (13 Dec 2017 6.20pm) We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by jeeagles

The USA unemployment rate is at is lowest level since the year 2000. The fall in unemployment may have started under previous administration but it's continued to fall under Trump.

Now ask yourself, if you had a family to feed and where on the breadline, what would you care more about:
- Getting a job
- Claims that the president has acted inappropriately towards some rich women.

The Democrats need to sort themselves out and realise that jobs are more important to people than anything else.

A couple of observations:

1) Obama put together the longest unbroken streak of private sector job growth in American history - dropping unemployment from over 10% to under 5% in the process;

2) Job growth (and GDP growth) has slowed under Trump, despite his claims to the contrary ("biggest ever!")

3) With a booming stock market, solid job growth, low unemployment, low interest rates, low inflation etc. etc., why would the sitting President be so deeply unpopular?

Each new poll has his approval ratings dropping deeper into the 30s while, more alarmingly for him, his disapproval ratings are soaring into the 60s. Trump won Alabama last year by a margin of +28%. While not on the ballot this year, exit polls asked for approval / disapproval of Trump's performance, and the result was 48% approve, 49% disapprove. In a year he went from +28% to -1%...in deep red Alabama!

Edited by Ray in Houston (13 Dec 2017 6.20pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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